Preliminary ADM

ok1234 Sophomore Posts: 239	Preliminary ADM Jul 25, 2023 19:12:31 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ok1234 on Jul 25, 2023 19:12:31 GMT -6 Looks like Lawton Ike and Piedmont will go to 6A2 along with McGuinness. Sante Fe South doesn’t play football, so Glenpool will bump up to 5A. www.ossaa.net/docs/2023-24/MiscForms/MF_2023-24_TentativeADM.pdf?id=724

WestSideWarrior Sophomore Posts: 177	Preliminary ADM Jul 25, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 25, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6 Yep. Tahlequah and Booker T. Washington dropping down. John Marshall moving up along with likely US Grant dropping down as the least successful replacement for Bishop McGuinness.
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ironheadjoe
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6

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Post by ironheadjoe on Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6

Jul 25, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6 WestSideWarrior said:

Yep. Tahlequah and Booker T. Washington dropping down. John Marshall moving up along with likely US Grant dropping down as the least successful replacement for Bishop McGuinness.

Will US Grant still drop down even if Capitol Hill goes independent? I don't understand this ADM crap so I was trying to figure it all out too. lol

ok1234
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by ok1234 on Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6

Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6 ironheadjoe said:

Jul 25, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6 WestSideWarrior said:

Yep. Tahlequah and Booker T. Washington dropping down. John Marshall moving up along with likely US Grant dropping down as the least successful replacement for Bishop McGuinness.

Will US Grant still drop down even if Capitol Hill goes independent? I don't understand this ADM crap so I was trying to figure it all out too. lol

Seems like a mess to me, how do you quantify least successful? I guess wins and losses, but only district games? If the point is to get programs to play who have similar participation from the student body, then a lot of those schools from OKCPS and TPS schools should be in class A-3A. Also having McGuinness go against Deer Creek and Choctaw doesn’t seem right, 2 years ago McGuinness had 6 seniors on the football team, and this years senior class has no offensive lineman in it, having to move up with ZERO state championships in 5A is something I still can’t wrap my head around.

WestSideWarrior
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 10:52:13 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 26, 2023 10:52:13 GMT -6

Rule 14 was amended to now be based on success instead of ADM when it comes to public teams dropping due to a private bumping. So with US grant being 0-10 last year and no real success the prior two years, I believe they have the lowest win total over the 3 year span that encompasses the initial Rule 14 window. They removed the 5A cap, so BM will bump to 6A-2 and from what I understand and have been told US Grant will be the one dropping down. I’m more curious if they try and keep glenpool up in 5A despite ADM dropping them to 4A due to the off number of teams in 5A with Guyman not participating. I think with Santa Fe doing Co-Op it still may be even now. I’ll have tor check.

WestSideWarrior
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 10:53:20 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 26, 2023 10:53:20 GMT -6

Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6 ok1234 said:

Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6 ironheadjoe said:

Will US Grant still drop down even if Capitol Hill goes independent? I don't understand this ADM crap so I was trying to figure it all out too. lol

Seems like a mess to me, how do you quantify least successful? I guess wins and losses, but only district games? If the point is to get programs to play who have similar participation from the student body, then a lot of those schools from OKCPS and TPS schools should be in class A-3A. Also having McGuinness go against Deer Creek and Choctaw doesn’t seem right, 2 years ago McGuinness had 6 seniors on the football team, and this years senior class has no offensive lineman in it, having to move up with ZERO state championships in 5A is something I still can’t wrap my head around.

Also, valid point. A lot of TPS programs despite having 5A ADMs really out put 20-30 kids on a team, if that for some.

tfb
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 12:36:42 GMT -6

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Post by tfb on Jul 26, 2023 12:36:42 GMT -6

Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6 ok1234 said:

Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6 ironheadjoe said:

Will US Grant still drop down even if Capitol Hill goes independent? I don't understand this ADM crap so I was trying to figure it all out too. lol

Seems like a mess to me, how do you quantify least successful? I guess wins and losses, but only district games? If the point is to get programs to play who have similar participation from the student body, then a lot of those schools from OKCPS and TPS schools should be in class A-3A. Also having McGuinness go against Deer Creek and Choctaw doesn’t seem right, 2 years ago McGuinness had 6 seniors on the football team, and this years senior class has no offensive lineman in it, having to move up with ZERO state championships in 5A is something I still can’t wrap my head around

AGREE

ironheadjoe
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Preliminary ADM Jul 26, 2023 14:23:52 GMT -6

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Post by ironheadjoe on Jul 26, 2023 14:23:52 GMT -6

Jul 26, 2023 10:53:20 GMT -6 WestSideWarrior said:

Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6 ok1234 said:

Seems like a mess to me, how do you quantify least successful? I guess wins and losses, but only district games? If the point is to get programs to play who have similar participation from the student body, then a lot of those schools from OKCPS and TPS schools should be in class A-3A. Also having McGuinness go against Deer Creek and Choctaw doesn’t seem right, 2 years ago McGuinness had 6 seniors on the football team, and this years senior class has no offensive lineman in it, having to move up with ZERO state championships in 5A is something I still can’t wrap my head around.

Also, valid point. A lot of TPS programs despite having 5A ADMs really out put 20-30 kids on a team, if that for some.

It amazes me how the "highly empowered" OSSAA doesn't take these things into account. Of course, that requires common sense and the OSSAA lacks that but they can figure out how to make all the money...

Post by ok1234 on Jul 25, 2023 19:12:31 GMT -6

Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 25, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -6

Post by ironheadjoe on Jul 26, 2023 8:13:47 GMT -6

Post by ok1234 on Jul 26, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -6

Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 26, 2023 10:52:13 GMT -6

Post by WestSideWarrior on Jul 26, 2023 10:53:20 GMT -6

Post by tfb on Jul 26, 2023 12:36:42 GMT -6

Post by ironheadjoe on Jul 26, 2023 14:23:52 GMT -6