Couple of observations

First, all fields should have an ambulance within 15/20 minutes away if at all possible. Saw a player get his cleat caught in the outfield fence(chain link) breaking both bones in his leg, compound fractures that didn't break thru. Layed at the fence around 40/45 minutes before ambulance arrived.

Second, umpires should never ever "acknowledge" the fans. Away game, really good close game, fans had a few small issues with home plate umpire until a controversial play at second, runner interference double play ended the inning, fans voiced their opinions rather loudly and the umpires decide to argue with the fans. 4/5 people thrown out(including principal), entire visiting teams fans were threatened with being thrown out, base umpire declared he was calling the game(3rd-4th inning), he didn't.
Very interesting couple weeks

If I came to your job and yelled at you while you were working or told you that you sucked, would you acknowledge me?

builderone
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 10:53:24 GMT -6

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Post by builderone on Apr 15, 2024 10:53:24 GMT -6

First, all fields should have an ambulance within 15/20 minutes away if at all possible. Saw a player get his cleat caught in the outfield fence(chain link) breaking both bones in his leg, compound fractures that didn't break thru. Layed at the fence around 40/45 minutes before ambulance arrived.

Second, umpires should never ever "acknowledge" the fans. Away game, really good close game, fans had a few small issues with home plate umpire until a controversial play at second, runner interference double play ended the inning, fans voiced their opinions rather loudly and the umpires decide to argue with the fans. 4/5 people thrown out(including principal), entire visiting teams fans were threatened with being thrown out, base umpire declared he was calling the game(3rd-4th inning), he didn't.
Very interesting couple weeks

There are over 150 games today and almost every day except Wednesday, Where are you getting 150 ambulances for these games. There is no way to get ambulances at all high school baseball games. That is only the high school ones. Add another 100 for JH and then softball. Then you have the umpires. Guess how they will not talk to fans. How about the fans stay quiet and stop crying every call and play

soonerfan1966
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 10:59:32 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by soonerfan1966 on Apr 15, 2024 10:59:32 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 8:01:04 GMT -6 harris said:

First, all fields should have an ambulance within 15/20 minutes away if at all possible. Saw a player get his cleat caught in the outfield fence(chain link) breaking both bones in his leg, compound fractures that didn't break thru. Layed at the fence around 40/45 minutes before ambulance arrived.

Second, umpires should never ever "acknowledge" the fans. Away game, really good close game, fans had a few small issues with home plate umpire until a controversial play at second, runner interference double play ended the inning, fans voiced their opinions rather loudly and the umpires decide to argue with the fans. 4/5 people thrown out(including principal), entire visiting teams fans were threatened with being thrown out, base umpire declared he was calling the game(3rd-4th inning), he didn't.
Very interesting couple weeks

If I came to your job and yelled at you while you were working or told you that you sucked, would you acknowledge me?

Wouldn't give you the time of day cause you wouldn't be worth my time

soonerfan1966
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 11:19:52 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by soonerfan1966 on Apr 15, 2024 11:19:52 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 10:53:24 GMT -6 builderone said:

First, all fields should have an ambulance within 15/20 minutes away if at all possible. Saw a player get his cleat caught in the outfield fence(chain link) breaking both bones in his leg, compound fractures that didn't break thru. Layed at the fence around 40/45 minutes before ambulance arrived.

Second, umpires should never ever "acknowledge" the fans. Away game, really good close game, fans had a few small issues with home plate umpire until a controversial play at second, runner interference double play ended the inning, fans voiced their opinions rather loudly and the umpires decide to argue with the fans. 4/5 people thrown out(including principal), entire visiting teams fans were threatened with being thrown out, base umpire declared he was calling the game(3rd-4th inning), he didn't.
Very interesting couple weeks

There are over 150 games today and almost every day except Wednesday, Where are you getting 150 ambulances for these games. There is no way to get ambulances at all high school baseball games. That is only the high school ones. Add another 100 for JH and then softball. Then you have the umpires. Guess how they will not talk to fans. How about the fans stay quiet and stop crying every call and play

Well I believe I live in the 6th largest county in Oklahoma and yes an ambulance can be at every school within the 15/20ish minutes. Having to wait 45 minutes is asking for a kid to lose a leg or worse.

Umpires should inform the administration if they are having problems with fans. If they need to throw a person out, throw them out and allow the administration to handle the problem. Umpires yelling at players is a sure way to fire the mamas up. Yelling at the fans to shut up, or threatening to throw all the visiting fans out for the actions of one or a few is not how to handle the situation.

builderone
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 11:56:08 GMT -6

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Post by builderone on Apr 15, 2024 11:56:08 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 11:19:52 GMT -6 soonerfan1966 said:

Apr 15, 2024 10:53:24 GMT -6 builderone said:

There are over 150 games today and almost every day except Wednesday, Where are you getting 150 ambulances for these games. There is no way to get ambulances at all high school baseball games. That is only the high school ones. Add another 100 for JH and then softball. Then you have the umpires. Guess how they will not talk to fans. How about the fans stay quiet and stop crying every call and play

Well I believe I live in the 6th largest county in Oklahoma and yes an ambulance can be at every school within the 15/20ish minutes. Having to wait 45 minutes is asking for a kid to lose a leg or worse.

Umpires should inform the administration if they are having problems with fans. If they need to throw a person out, throw them out and allow the administration to handle the problem. Umpires yelling at players is a sure way to fire the mamas up. Yelling at the fans to shut up, or threatening to throw all the visiting fans out for the actions of one or a few is not how to handle the situation.

Well maybe Mama bear should teach players respect. If admin was doing job then umpire does not have to do their job for them

harris
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 12:04:30 GMT -6

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Post by harris on Apr 15, 2024 12:04:30 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 8:01:04 GMT -6 harris said:

If I came to your job and yelled at you while you were working or told you that you sucked, would you acknowledge me?

Wouldn't give you the time of day cause you wouldn't be worth my time

Your lying to yourself. You go to work every day and have someone who isnt qualified to do your job and doesnt go to training to do your job and they constantly harass you, you would clap back eventually.

Administration doesnt always back officials. If a board member in a small town is the one barking, admin isnt gonna make them leave.

Johnny C
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Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 12:49:11 GMT -6

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Post by Johnny C on Apr 15, 2024 12:49:11 GMT -6

Wouldn't give you the time of day cause you wouldn't be worth my time

Your lying to yourself. You go to work every day and have someone who isnt qualified to do your job and doesnt go to training to do your job and they constantly harass you, you would clap back eventually.

Administration doesnt always back officials. If a board member in a small town is the one barking, admin isnt gonna make them leave.

I know umps and refs who took their test online and have never had "training".

soonerfan1966
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Posts: 5

Couple of observations Apr 15, 2024 13:50:30 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by soonerfan1966 on Apr 15, 2024 13:50:30 GMT -6

Wouldn't give you the time of day cause you wouldn't be worth my time

Your lying to yourself. You go to work every day and have someone who isnt qualified to do your job and doesnt go to training to do your job and they constantly harass you, you would clap back eventually.

Administration doesnt always back officials. If a board member in a small town is the one barking, admin isnt gonna make them leave.

Spent 30 years in a factory, so yes I know I wouldn't clap back cause I didn't

harris
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Couple of observations Apr 16, 2024 12:04:49 GMT -6

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Post by harris on Apr 16, 2024 12:04:49 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 12:49:11 GMT -6 Johnny C said:

Your lying to yourself. You go to work every day and have someone who isnt qualified to do your job and doesnt go to training to do your job and they constantly harass you, you would clap back eventually.

Administration doesnt always back officials. If a board member in a small town is the one barking, admin isnt gonna make them leave.

I know umps and refs who took their test online and have never had "training".

Im sure you do. For every "one" you name, I can name 5 that go to trainings. Also, those umps and refs you speak of will never call past a district tournament let alone call in the state tournament.

harris
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Couple of observations Apr 16, 2024 12:08:02 GMT -6

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Post by harris on Apr 16, 2024 12:08:02 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 13:50:30 GMT -6 soonerfan1966 said:

Your lying to yourself. You go to work every day and have someone who isnt qualified to do your job and doesnt go to training to do your job and they constantly harass you, you would clap back eventually.

Administration doesnt always back officials. If a board member in a small town is the one barking, admin isnt gonna make them leave.

Spent 30 years in a factory, so yes I know I wouldn't clap back cause I didn't

Working in a factory wouldnt prepare you for officiating.
You should try officiating. I can get you setup if you need help getting started.

haveseenalot
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Couple of observations Apr 16, 2024 14:38:22 GMT -6

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Post by haveseenalot on Apr 16, 2024 14:38:22 GMT -6

Apr 15, 2024 8:01:04 GMT -6 harris said:

If I came to your job and yelled at you while you were working or told you that you sucked, would you acknowledge me?

Wouldn't give you the time of day cause you wouldn't be worth my time

and you sir, are one of a kind.....

soonerfan1966
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Couple of observations Apr 16, 2024 18:40:19 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by soonerfan1966 on Apr 16, 2024 18:40:19 GMT -6

Apr 16, 2024 14:38:22 GMT -6 haveseenalot said: