Rankings week 4

tgrohl
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Rankings week 4 Jan 8, 2024 16:15:20 GMT -6 via mobile

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1 OKAY (76) 9-3 1810
2 RATTAN (3) 13-2 1655
3 DRUMMOND (1) 14-2 1390
4 SENTINEL (8) 16-0 1349
5 OKARCHE (1) 10-2 1333
6 CADDO (2) 5-6 1283
7 STONEWALL (2) 15-0 1267
8 SEILING 5-5 1154
9 TEXHOMA 10-1 972
10 ALLEN 10-1 883
11 WRIGHT CITY 13-1 701
12 CANUTE 12-3 624
13 LIBERTY 9-3 599
14 THE ACADEMY 12-3 559
15 DRUMRIGHT 11-1 558
16 VELMA-ALMA 8-2 487
17 RIPLEY 12-3 446
18 SOUTHWEST COVENANT 8-2 395
19 RIVERFIELD 8-2 387
20 POND CREEK-HUNTER 12-0 383

ahrenvans Junior Posts: 459 Favorite Sport: Basketball	Rankings week 4 Jan 9, 2024 9:29:25 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ahrenvans on Jan 9, 2024 9:29:25 GMT -6 What has happened to Caddo?

harris Sophomore Posts: 205	Rankings week 4 Jan 9, 2024 11:04:29 GMT -6 tgrohl likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by harris on Jan 9, 2024 11:04:29 GMT -6 other than the fact that they have no size, Nothing. They are still good. 4 of their 6 losses are to 4A and above, other 2 are to top 10 class A teams.

Russell Barron
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Rankings week 4 Jan 9, 2024 12:49:31 GMT -6 via mobile tgrohl and greencountry like this

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Post by Russell Barron on Jan 9, 2024 12:49:31 GMT -6

Caddo will b fine when the playoffs roll around. Best player has had a bum ankle and they have played a tuff schedule. If there healthy when the playoffs start they will b in the big house I believe.

uncle Sophomore Posts: 173	Rankings week 4 Jan 9, 2024 15:46:33 GMT -6 via mobile texasrangers and tgrohl like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by uncle on Jan 9, 2024 15:46:33 GMT -6 Binger 13-2 with two tournament championships still not ranked. Going to be a problem for someone in regionals. We’ll see how they do in the Caddo County tournament next week.

truthspeaker
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Rankings week 4 Jan 10, 2024 7:53:59 GMT -6 greencountry likes this

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Jan 9, 2024 15:46:33 GMT -6 uncle said:

Binger 13-2 with two tournament championships still not ranked. Going to be a problem for someone in regionals. We’ll see how they do in the Caddo County tournament next week.

Not sure they are top 20. Have a good record, but haven't played a very tough schedule. Need some signature wins to bust in.

texasrangers
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Rankings week 4 Jan 10, 2024 10:13:17 GMT -6

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Jan 10, 2024 7:53:59 GMT -6 truthspeaker said:

Jan 9, 2024 15:46:33 GMT -6 uncle said:

Binger 13-2 with two tournament championships still not ranked. Going to be a problem for someone in regionals. We’ll see how they do in the Caddo County tournament next week.

Not sure they are top 20. Have a good record, but haven't played a very tough schedule. Need some signature wins to bust in.

I understand what your saying but 15-20 in the rankings don't have a signature win. Only a couple with a win over a top 20 team Drumright and Ripley.

truthspeaker
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Rankings week 4 Jan 10, 2024 10:30:42 GMT -6

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Jan 10, 2024 10:13:17 GMT -6 texasrangers said:

Jan 10, 2024 7:53:59 GMT -6 truthspeaker said:

Not sure they are top 20. Have a good record, but haven't played a very tough schedule. Need some signature wins to bust in.

I understand what your saying but 15-20 in the rankings don't have a signature win. Only a couple with a win over a top 20 team Drumright and Ripley.

Cant speak for PCH, but I've seen B-O, Riverfield, Covenant, and Ripley. May have seen them on a bad night, but the other 4 are better than B-O

8delay Junior Posts: 286	Rankings week 4 Jan 10, 2024 12:45:35 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 8delay on Jan 10, 2024 12:45:35 GMT -6 PC-H is really good, their schedule hasn't been that tough, but we will see how good they are next week in their conference tourney with Drummond, Waukomis, Garber, etc

uncle
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Rankings week 4 Jan 10, 2024 15:20:00 GMT -6 via mobile texasrangers likes this

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Post by uncle on Jan 10, 2024 15:20:00 GMT -6

B-O hasn’t had as many ranked teams on schedule as usual, but have some good wins over
Carnegie 11-3
Ninnekah 14-4
Verden 10-6
Union City 10-7 twice. Both by more than SWC beat UC by.

Next week’s tournaments will tell us a lot.

bballfan1 Freshmen Posts: 87	Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 0:23:24 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bballfan1 on Jan 11, 2024 0:23:24 GMT -6 Just because those teams have good records doesn’t mean they’re good wins. You could say that about a lot of teams though

itsthe90s
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Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 9:24:07 GMT -6 via mobile

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Jan 11, 2024 0:23:24 GMT -6 bballfan1 said:

Just because those teams have good records doesn’t mean they’re good wins. You could say that about a lot of teams though

I disagree. Beating a team that has a winning record is ALWAYS a good win.
Is it as good of a win beating a #3 ranked team but it’s still a good win. Those are the teams you’re going to face in elimination games. Those good teams with good records.

bballfan1
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Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 13:26:42 GMT -6 via mobile

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So you’re saying a team that has a record with a bunch of wins against BAD teams, and a few loses against GOOD teams, is a good team? That means they’re average. Not good enough to beat anybody that’s actually good, but just good enough to beat the bad teams.

bballfan1
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Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 13:30:18 GMT -6 via mobile

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Just because you beat somebody with a good record doesn’t make it a good win. A team that has a bunch of wins over teams with terrible records, doesn’t make them good. Go beat a top 8 ranked team, go beat a team that’s 2 or 3 class sizes bigger than you with a winning record. Those are the wins you can consider “good” wins.

itsthe90s
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Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 14:28:20 GMT -6 via mobile

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Jan 11, 2024 13:26:42 GMT -6 bballfan1 said:

So you’re saying a team that has a record with a bunch of wins against BAD teams, and a few loses against GOOD teams, is a good team? That means they’re average. Not good enough to beat anybody that’s actually good, but just good enough to beat the bad teams.

No. I’m saying beating a team with a winning record is ALWAYS a good win. Always will be. I understand what you’re saying that beating a team that is 15-0 but their 15 wins came again teams with losing records. You say that’s not a good win, i say it is. Anytime you WIN is always a good thing.

Cap'nCrunch
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Rankings week 4 Jan 11, 2024 16:07:49 GMT -6 8delay likes this

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Jan 10, 2024 12:45:35 GMT -6 8delay said:

PC-H is really good, their schedule hasn't been that tough, but we will see how good they are next week in their conference tourney with Drummond, Waukomis, Garber, etc

I'm really interested to see how their next couple weeks end up. They're at Dover tomorrow, Cashion at home Tuesday, then the Skeltur Tournament (they'll roll Pioneer in the first round, then probably see Waukomis in the semifinals (Waukomis lost their big man for the year, but should still be solid) and Drummond in the finals), then at Garber and Drummond at home the next week.

texasrangers
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Rankings week 4 Jan 14, 2024 22:44:13 GMT -6

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Jan 10, 2024 15:20:00 GMT -6 uncle said:

B-O hasn’t had as many ranked teams on schedule as usual, but have some good wins over
Carnegie 11-3
Ninnekah 14-4
Verden 10-6
Union City 10-7 twice. Both by more than SWC beat UC by.

Next week’s tournaments will tell us a lot.

Think Binger should take Ripley's place in the top 20. Not saying Ripley isn't good but just record alone. Getting beat by unranked teams should drop you a couple.

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bballfan1 Freshmen Posts: 87	Rankings week 4 Jan 15, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bballfan1 on Jan 15, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -6 Thinking a team should be ranked solely because they’ve beat a bunch of bad teams and lost to the only good teams they’ve played is crazy in my opinion

itsthe90s
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Rankings week 4 Jan 15, 2024 8:48:58 GMT -6 via mobile

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Jan 15, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -6 bballfan1 said:

Thinking a team should be ranked solely because they’ve beat a bunch of bad teams and lost to the only good teams they’ve played is crazy in my opinion

We understand you don’t like B-O but we’re talking about them being ranked #20. I mean truthfully they are probably in that 16-20 range. I think Ripken should be in that 12-15 range. It’ll be interesting to see how these two teams pair in Regionsls/Area and hopefully we can see who is the number 17th team!

texasrangers
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Rankings week 4 Jan 15, 2024 9:01:05 GMT -6

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Jan 15, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -6 bballfan1 said:

Thinking a team should be ranked solely because they’ve beat a bunch of bad teams and lost to the only good teams they’ve played is crazy in my opinion

Thinking a team should be ranked because they have beat a bunch of bad teams and lost to average teams is crazy.

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