Sallisaw Job

Word on the street is we have hired the almighty Brandon Tyler to lead us out of this funk we are in. What are your thoughts. Figured we would go after someone a bit more qualified to turn a program around. Will he be the next Craig Benson? Big shoes to fill. We will see.

I personally think it's a good hire. Gore was like 5-35 before he got there and he got them turned around

I have no idea what 4A-4 will look like next season outside of Poteau though since Ada, Hilldale and Broken Bow lost some key pieces

Winners never quit and quitters never win

swami
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Sallisaw Job Feb 11, 2023 18:35:31 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by swami on Feb 11, 2023 18:35:31 GMT -6

Word on the street is we have hired the almighty Brandon Tyler to lead us out of this funk we are in. What are your thoughts. Figured we would go after someone a bit more qualified to turn a program around. Will he be the next Craig Benson? Big shoes to fill. We will see.

Hold on……are you seriously questioning the ability of Tyler?

The guy who took Vian to the playoffs multiple times, and turned Gore into a finals team, Brandon Tyler?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or reach through the internet and smack some sense into you.

This is a phenomenal hire that people in Sallisaw should be excited about. The guy turns around programs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And you question that? Good lord.

And no, for all inquiring minds, I am not Coach Tyler. I’m simply a retired coach who coached many times against Brandon Tyler, and he’s legit.

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txballcoach
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Sallisaw Job Feb 12, 2023 11:35:15 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by txballcoach on Feb 12, 2023 11:35:15 GMT -6

Word on the street is we have hired the almighty Brandon Tyler to lead us out of this funk we are in. What are your thoughts. Figured we would go after someone a bit more qualified to turn a program around. Will he be the next Craig Benson? Big shoes to fill. We will see.

Hold on……are you seriously questioning the ability of Tyler?

The guy who took Vian to the playoffs multiple times, and turned Gore into a finals team, Brandon Tyler?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or reach through the internet and smack some sense into you.

This is a phenomenal hire that people in Sallisaw should be excited about. The guy turns around programs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And you question that? Good lord.

And no, for all inquiring minds, I am not Coach Tyler. I’m simply a retired coach who coached many times against Brandon Tyler, and he’s legit.

Agreed. Class act and will always answer the phone or text and let you pick his brain. He is one of the reason the brotherhood of coaches in Oklahoma are so strong.

blackdiamondntn
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Sallisaw Job Feb 12, 2023 13:07:34 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by blackdiamondntn on Feb 12, 2023 13:07:34 GMT -6

Word on the street is we have hired the almighty Brandon Tyler to lead us out of this funk we are in. What are your thoughts. Figured we would go after someone a bit more qualified to turn a program around. Will he be the next Craig Benson? Big shoes to fill. We will see.

Hold on……are you seriously questioning the ability of Tyler?

The guy who took Vian to the playoffs multiple times, and turned Gore into a finals team, Brandon Tyler?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or reach through the internet and smack some sense into you.

This is a phenomenal hire that people in Sallisaw should be excited about. The guy turns around programs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And you question that? Good lord.

And no, for all inquiring minds, I am not Coach Tyler. I’m simply a retired coach who coached many times against Brandon Tyler, and he’s legit.

Easy there partner. I’ve been living a nightmare watching these kids play and getting guys in here that say they will commit and turn this thing around. Brandon is a good coach, not denying that, but how many times has he come somewhere with ZERO talent and “turned it around”? That group he had at Vian featured a ton of DUDES anyone could win with. Had about 8 kids move in to Gore when he got there and what do ya know, 22 seniors this year and now he’s out. He has always went where the talent/money is. I don’t want him here if he is searching for the money. We need someone who can invest and not leave in two years.

Did someone accuse you of being Coach Tyler? Kind of weird you would throw that out there randomly. I may need a little smack through the internet, but I’m just a frustrated fan that’s had enough. Might bite off a little more than you can chew but I welcome it.

wigglex3
Sophomore

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Sallisaw Job Feb 12, 2023 14:45:45 GMT -6

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Post by wigglex3 on Feb 12, 2023 14:45:45 GMT -6

Hold on……are you seriously questioning the ability of Tyler?

The guy who took Vian to the playoffs multiple times, and turned Gore into a finals team, Brandon Tyler?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or reach through the internet and smack some sense into you.

This is a phenomenal hire that people in Sallisaw should be excited about. The guy turns around programs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And you question that? Good lord.

And no, for all inquiring minds, I am not Coach Tyler. I’m simply a retired coach who coached many times against Brandon Tyler, and he’s legit.

Easy there partner. I’ve been living a nightmare watching these kids play and getting guys in here that say they will commit and turn this thing around. Brandon is a good coach, not denying that, but how many times has he come somewhere with ZERO talent and “turned it around”? That group he had at Vian featured a ton of DUDES anyone could win with. Had about 8 kids move in to Gore when he got there and what do ya know, 22 seniors this year and now he’s out. He has always went where the talent/money is. I don’t want him here if he is searching for the money. We need someone who can invest and not leave in two years.

Did someone accuse you of being Coach Tyler? Kind of weird you would throw that out there randomly. I may need a little smack through the internet, but I’m just a frustrated fan that’s had enough. Might bite off a little more than you can chew but I welcome it.

Blackdiamond how can you expect any coach to win with ZERO talent?

3rdand1
Sophomore

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Sallisaw Job Feb 12, 2023 14:54:11 GMT -6

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Post by 3rdand1 on Feb 12, 2023 14:54:11 GMT -6

Hold on……are you seriously questioning the ability of Tyler?

The guy who took Vian to the playoffs multiple times, and turned Gore into a finals team, Brandon Tyler?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or reach through the internet and smack some sense into you.

This is a phenomenal hire that people in Sallisaw should be excited about. The guy turns around programs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And you question that? Good lord.

And no, for all inquiring minds, I am not Coach Tyler. I’m simply a retired coach who coached many times against Brandon Tyler, and he’s legit.

Easy there partner. I’ve been living a nightmare watching these kids play and getting guys in here that say they will commit and turn this thing around. Brandon is a good coach, not denying that, but how many times has he come somewhere with ZERO talent and “turned it around”? That group he had at Vian featured a ton of DUDES anyone could win with. Had about 8 kids move in to Gore when he got there and what do ya know, 22 seniors this year and now he’s out. He has always went where the talent/money is. I don’t want him here if he is searching for the money. We need someone who can invest and not leave in two years.

Did someone accuse you of being Coach Tyler? Kind of weird you would throw that out there randomly. I may need a little smack through the internet, but I’m just a frustrated fan that’s had enough. Might bite off a little more than you can chew but I welcome it.

I'd be more concerned with a coach who CAN'T win with talent. If there's any talent at all in Sallisaw, he'll find it and utilize it. The group from Gore were well disciplined, strong, and coached. Furthermore, he built a state competitive track team and state championship power-lifting team with those players (both of which were non-existent prior to his arrival). I'd say that's maximizing potential AND talent, exactly what a great coach does.

blackdiamondntn
Freshmen

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Sallisaw Job Feb 13, 2023 12:14:24 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by blackdiamondntn on Feb 13, 2023 12:14:24 GMT -6

Feb 12, 2023 14:54:11 GMT -6 3rdand1 said:

Easy there partner. I’ve been living a nightmare watching these kids play and getting guys in here that say they will commit and turn this thing around. Brandon is a good coach, not denying that, but how many times has he come somewhere with ZERO talent and “turned it around”? That group he had at Vian featured a ton of DUDES anyone could win with. Had about 8 kids move in to Gore when he got there and what do ya know, 22 seniors this year and now he’s out. He has always went where the talent/money is. I don’t want him here if he is searching for the money. We need someone who can invest and not leave in two years.

Did someone accuse you of being Coach Tyler? Kind of weird you would throw that out there randomly. I may need a little smack through the internet, but I’m just a frustrated fan that’s had enough. Might bite off a little more than you can chew but I welcome it.

I'd be more concerned with a coach who CAN'T win with talent. If there's any talent at all in Sallisaw, he'll find it and utilize it. The group from Gore were well disciplined, strong, and coached. Furthermore, he built a state competitive track team and state championship power-lifting team with those players (both of which were non-existent prior to his arrival). I'd say that's maximizing potential AND talent, exactly what a great coach does.

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The Douthit guy could have coached the Bliss kid to a ship in track, he was going to win it with anyone there. I can’t wait to see what you do here Coach. Much love.

3rdand1
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Sallisaw Job Feb 13, 2023 13:46:24 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by 3rdand1 on Feb 13, 2023 13:46:24 GMT -6

Feb 13, 2023 12:14:24 GMT -6 blackdiamondntn said:

Feb 12, 2023 14:54:11 GMT -6 3rdand1 said:

I'd be more concerned with a coach who CAN'T win with talent. If there's any talent at all in Sallisaw, he'll find it and utilize it. The group from Gore were well disciplined, strong, and coached. Furthermore, he built a state competitive track team and state championship power-lifting team with those players (both of which were non-existent prior to his arrival). I'd say that's maximizing potential AND talent, exactly what a great coach does.

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The Douthit guy could have coached the Bliss kid to a ship in track, he was going to win it with anyone there. I can’t wait to see what you do here Coach. Much love.

I was specifically talking about football player development. Bliss wasn’t a football player.

FearTHEVeer
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Sallisaw Job Feb 13, 2023 13:55:39 GMT -6 duckandcover likes this

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Post by FearTHEVeer on Feb 13, 2023 13:55:39 GMT -6

The talent level in Sallisaw is not what it once was. I still think they can be an annual playoff team, especially with everyone outside of Poteau in their district losing a ton of seniors from this year. The last hire was a terrible one that every high school coach I've talked to saw coming when it happened. With Tyler, you know what you are going to get. He's going to have the kids in the weight room and on the track and try to develop and maximize what talent they have. Scheme wise, he's not going to be someone who's trying to be flashy or on the cutting edge offensively or defensively, but he will have his kids coached up on what they do run and they will be sound at what they want to do, albeit somewhat predictable. If the town mafia will stay out of his way I think it will be an upgrade over their last 3 coaches.

grizzledballcoach17
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Sallisaw Job Feb 14, 2023 8:59:42 GMT -6

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Post by grizzledballcoach17 on Feb 14, 2023 8:59:42 GMT -6

Feb 13, 2023 13:55:39 GMT -6 FearTHEVeer said:

The talent level in Sallisaw is not what it once was. I still think they can be an annual playoff team, especially with everyone outside of Poteau in their district losing a ton of seniors from this year. The last hire was a terrible one that every high school coach I've talked to saw coming when it happened. With Tyler, you know what you are going to get. He's going to have the kids in the weight room and on the track and try to develop and maximize what talent they have. Scheme wise, he's not going to be someone who's trying to be flashy or on the cutting edge offensively or defensively, but he will have his kids coached up on what they do run and they will be sound at what they want to do, albeit somewhat predictable. If the town mafia will stay out of his way I think it will be an upgrade over their last 3 coaches.

What was the problem with the previous head coach, Randon Lowe? Heard he was a solid guy, both on and off the field.

FearTHEVeer
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Sallisaw Job Feb 14, 2023 9:08:19 GMT -6

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Post by FearTHEVeer on Feb 14, 2023 9:08:19 GMT -6

Feb 14, 2023 8:59:42 GMT -6 grizzledballcoach17 said:

Feb 13, 2023 13:55:39 GMT -6 FearTHEVeer said:

The talent level in Sallisaw is not what it once was. I still think they can be an annual playoff team, especially with everyone outside of Poteau in their district losing a ton of seniors from this year. The last hire was a terrible one that every high school coach I've talked to saw coming when it happened. With Tyler, you know what you are going to get. He's going to have the kids in the weight room and on the track and try to develop and maximize what talent they have. Scheme wise, he's not going to be someone who's trying to be flashy or on the cutting edge offensively or defensively, but he will have his kids coached up on what they do run and they will be sound at what they want to do, albeit somewhat predictable. If the town mafia will stay out of his way I think it will be an upgrade over their last 3 coaches.

What was the problem with the previous head coach, Randon Lowe? Heard he was a solid guy, both on and off the field.

Lowe is a well respected offensive mind no doubt, but had heard he had ran off a bunch of kids and the numbers were way down towards the end with him though.

3rdand1
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Sallisaw Job Feb 14, 2023 13:27:17 GMT -6 duckandcover likes this

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Post by 3rdand1 on Feb 14, 2023 13:27:17 GMT -6

Feb 14, 2023 9:08:19 GMT -6 FearTHEVeer said:

Feb 14, 2023 8:59:42 GMT -6 grizzledballcoach17 said:

What was the problem with the previous head coach, Randon Lowe? Heard he was a solid guy, both on and off the field.

Lowe is a well respected offensive mind no doubt, but had heard he had ran off a bunch of kids and the numbers were way down towards the end with him though.

Not sure why he ran off a bunch of kids but it usually happens when kids aren't used to a culture of discipline. When you try to create an atmosphere of hard work and discipline, most will just fold and quit instead of persevering.

FearTHEVeer
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Sallisaw Job Feb 15, 2023 9:08:02 GMT -6

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Post by FearTHEVeer on Feb 15, 2023 9:08:02 GMT -6

Feb 14, 2023 13:27:17 GMT -6 3rdand1 said:

Feb 14, 2023 9:08:19 GMT -6 FearTHEVeer said:

Lowe is a well respected offensive mind no doubt, but had heard he had ran off a bunch of kids and the numbers were way down towards the end with him though.

Not sure why he ran off a bunch of kids but it usually happens when kids aren't used to a culture of discipline. When you try to create an atmosphere of hard work and discipline, most will just fold and quit instead of persevering.

Just what I had heard from people there but you could very well be correct. I expect Coach Tyler to try to bring the numbers back up some by building a culture kids want to be a part of. That can be done while still having discipline and working hard. Sometimes people are good fits and sometimes they aren't. Time will tell

wildcatfansdad
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Sallisaw Job Feb 15, 2023 10:59:38 GMT -6 via mobile

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