1. Washington 2. Jones 3. Bethel 4. Silo 5. Idabel 6. Alva 7. Luther 8. Kingston 9. Kiefer 10.Purcell
I am going out on a limb, but right now it looks like 1. Washington, 2. Bethel. Washington and Bethel had similar margins of victory against common opponent Tecumseh. Jones struggled with Tecumseh. If you go strictly on W/L go by common opponents and Dale took it to Jones and not Bethel. One could argu Washington’s body of work isn’t near as good as some of the others, but they are making big wins. I would put Jones/Bethel at #2 until they play on the 31st. Keifer is underrated on this poll and Silo is overrated. Can’t lose to Comanche and be a contender.
1. Washington 2. Jones 3. Bethel 4. Silo 5. Idabel 6. Alva 7. Luther 8. Kingston 9. Kiefer 10.Purcell
I am going out on a limb, but right now it looks like 1. Washington, 2. Bethel. Washington and Bethel had similar margins of victory against common opponent Tecumseh. Jones struggled with Tecumseh. If you go strictly on W/L go by common opponents and Dale took it to Jones and not Bethel. One could argu Washington’s body of work isn’t near as good as some of the others, but they are making big wins. I would put Jones/Bethel at #2 until they play on the 31st. Keifer is underrated on this poll and Silo is overrated. Can’t lose to Comanche and be a contender.
I put Silo there, because they seem to be playing way better now. They beat Idabel and just took Dale to the wire in the Cashion tournament title game lost 60-57
I am going out on a limb, but right now it looks like 1. Washington, 2. Bethel. Washington and Bethel had similar margins of victory against common opponent Tecumseh. Jones struggled with Tecumseh. If you go strictly on W/L go by common opponents and Dale took it to Jones and not Bethel. One could argu Washington’s body of work isn’t near as good as some of the others, but they are making big wins. I would put Jones/Bethel at #2 until they play on the 31st. Keifer is underrated on this poll and Silo is overrated. Can’t lose to Comanche and be a contender.
I put Silo there, because they seem to be playing way better now. They beat Idabel and just took Dale to the wire in the Cashion tournament title game lost 60-57
also Jones will be there in the end. They did this last year too kind of well I wouldn't say not interested in the regular season, but they turned it on in the playoffs. They have all that title game experience. I see them doing the same this year
I put Silo there, because they seem to be playing way better now. They beat Idabel and just took Dale to the wire in the Cashion tournament title game lost 60-57
also Jones will be there in the end. They did this last year too kind of well I wouldn't say not interested in the regular season, but they turned it on in the playoffs. They have all that title game experience. I see them doing the same this year
I think this postseason is going to come down to who has the best guard play. Not many good bigs in 3a other than the Kiefer girl. Jones and Bethel both have deep playoff experience and Idabel had a chance run last year. Idabel will have to win through area on guard play because small teams will force them to take their big off the floor. Washington is playing like the have nothing lose with youth. Only one senior and the rest are sophomores and freshmen and no playoff experience really. Purcell has played Washington as close as anyone and they are young as well. I like the idea of the top ten but I think we need to look at top 8. 1. Washington 2. Bethel 3. Jones 4. Keifer 5. Silo 6. Luther 7. Alva 8. Purcell
I would say that both Idabel and Silo have very good bigs. Tiani Ellison can score with anybody. Mary Carden is 6’6” she is hard to guard.
Guard play will determine the teams in the state tournament. Silo has better guard play than Idabel. Running an offense through a girl who is 6’6” isn’t an offense. Double her up and make the rest of the team beat you. The Idabel girl will force them to play 5 on 4 when they transition to defense. She is good but can’t run the floor.
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I would say that both Idabel and Silo have very good bigs. Tiani Ellison can score with anybody. Mary Carden is 6’6” she is hard to guard.
Guard play will determine the teams in the state tournament. Silo has better guard play than Idabel. Running an offense through a girl who is 6’6” isn’t an offense. Double her up and make the rest of the team beat you. The Idabel girl will force them to play 5 on 4 when they transition to defense. She is good but can’t run the floor.
yeah Idabel had all those Srs guards last year and went on that title game run. This year they are young, freshman and sophomores. One sophomore is really good though, Mercades Lopez can put up 25-30 any game so they're not just a one trick pony with Mary Carden the 6'6 post. They do need more production from another guard other than Lopez though. If the lone Sr on the team can hit some shots which she is capable she's had a couple 15-16 pt outings this year. That would make Idabel more formidable going forward.
Alva girls are not top 10. I've watched this team play numerous games, and they aren't impressive at all. It's very sloppy and not good. I don't keep up with 3A outside of Alva, but I hope they aren't top 10 because they do not deserve to be.
Guard play will determine the teams in the state tournament. Silo has better guard play than Idabel. Running an offense through a girl who is 6’6” isn’t an offense. Double her up and make the rest of the team beat you. The Idabel girl will force them to play 5 on 4 when they transition to defense. She is good but can’t run the floor.
yeah Idabel had all those Srs guards last year and went on that title game run. This year they are young, freshman and sophomores. One sophomore is really good though, Mercades Lopez can put up 25-30 any game so they're not just a one trick pony with Mary Carden the 6'6 post. They do need more production from another guard other than Lopez though. If the lone Sr on the team can hit some shots which she is capable she's had a couple 15-16 pt outings this year. That would make Idabel more formidable going forward.
May be a reach in saying this but the Jobe girl from Idabel could be the difference in wether they return to state or not. You know what your getting out of the other , Lopez and Carden. Jobe could be the xfactor if she can get 12-15 throughout the playoffs, Idabel could get back to the finals.
I like the why or why not gives everyone a perspective on who we expect to see there. Ultimately we will have a better feeling when playoff pairings come out. I expect Idabel to get stuck in a region where they could advance or get knocked out. I would like to see Kiefer and Idabel end up in the same region/area because they match up well with each other. The same can be said of several other teams that are guard heavy. There should be some great regional and area matchups if the chips fall right. I don’t think you want a Washington, Jones, Purcell, Bethel matching up against a team that relies on big play. They will run the big to death and take that weapon off the court.
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I’m just going to say this. Dale has played Bethel twice, Jones, Silo, Luther & Kingston. Of those teams the team that I was impressed with is Silo. If they play like that they will be tough. The #00 from Red Oak compliments #21 well. Had 21 and 25 against us. I thought they had the player that could beat us, but wondered around her. They need one more solid 10-12 a night scorer. Jones looks to be back to what they were and if that happens I feel like state will be like last year. We played extremely well against them. Bethel has two good ones. The tall blonde is legit. Kingston is good and fast I think that if you can’t handle the press they will cause problems. Luther has some good guards.
1. Jones 2. Washington 3. Bethel 4. Silo 5. Idabel 6. Kiefer 7. Luther 8. Purcell 9. Kingston 10. Alva
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yeah Idabel had all those Srs guards last year and went on that title game run. This year they are young, freshman and sophomores. One sophomore is really good though, Mercades Lopez can put up 25-30 any game so they're not just a one trick pony with Mary Carden the 6'6 post. They do need more production from another guard other than Lopez though. If the lone Sr on the team can hit some shots which she is capable she's had a couple 15-16 pt outings this year. That would make Idabel more formidable going forward.
May be a reach in saying this but the Jobe girl from Idabel could be the difference in wether they return to state or not. You know what your getting out of the other , Lopez and Carden. Jobe could be the xfactor if she can get 12-15 throughout the playoffs, Idabel could get back to the finals.
you're spot on 100% and idk about finals but definitely back to State and maybe even win a game If Jobe can get you 12-15 a game in the playoffs.
May be a reach in saying this but the Jobe girl from Idabel could be the difference in wether they return to state or not. You know what your getting out of the other , Lopez and Carden. Jobe could be the xfactor if she can get 12-15 throughout the playoffs, Idabel could get back to the finals.
you're spot on 100% and idk about finals but definitely back to State and maybe even win a game If Jobe can get you 12-15 a game in the playoffs.
I retract my statement about the finals. After watching the performance against BB last night, I can say it will take a lot for them to get to the finals. IMO, BB outplayed Idabel. Lopez as well as their other guards werent impressive, turned the ball over several times, Lopez did help ice the game with free throws late. Im not sure if Jobe even scored. Carden got most of her points off put backs. She had 3 players on her every possession and the Idabel guards continued to throw the ball to her. They won but I was less than impressed. Still think they make state.
I’m just going to say this. Dale has played Bethel twice, Jones, Silo, Luther & Kingston. Of those teams the team that I was impressed with is Silo. If they play like that they will be tough. The #00 from Red Oak compliments #21 well. Had 21 and 25 against us. I thought they had the player that could beat us, but wondered around her. They need one more solid 10-12 a night scorer. Jones looks to be back to what they were and if that happens I feel like state will be like last year. We played extremely well against them. Bethel has two good ones. The tall blonde is legit. Kingston is good and fast I think that if you can’t handle the press they will cause problems. Luther has some good guards.
1. Jones 2. Washington 3. Bethel 4. Silo 5. Idabel 6. Kiefer 7. Luther 8. Purcell 9. Kingston 10. Alva
If purcell is a top 10 team then 3a is a not very good i wasn't impressed
you're spot on 100% and idk about finals but definitely back to State and maybe even win a game If Jobe can get you 12-15 a game in the playoffs.
I retract my statement about the finals. After watching the performance against BB last night, I can say it will take a lot for them to get to the finals. IMO, BB outplayed Idabel. Lopez as well as their other guards werent impressive, turned the ball over several times, Lopez did help ice the game with free throws late. Im not sure if Jobe even scored. Carden got most of her points off put backs. She had 3 players on her every possession and the Idabel guards continued to throw the ball to her. They won but I was less than impressed. Still think they make state.
I agree this team is nowhere near as good as last year. Guard play is just too young right now. I think Lopez got in foul trouble and sat out almost the whole 3rd qtr into the 4th. Offense didn't look good at all without her on the floor. Credit to BB though, they are young and up in coming. They will be good next 2 years.
I’m just going to say this. Dale has played Bethel twice, Jones, Silo, Luther & Kingston. Of those teams the team that I was impressed with is Silo. If they play like that they will be tough. The #00 from Red Oak compliments #21 well. Had 21 and 25 against us. I thought they had the player that could beat us, but wondered around her. They need one more solid 10-12 a night scorer. Jones looks to be back to what they were and if that happens I feel like state will be like last year. We played extremely well against them. Bethel has two good ones. The tall blonde is legit. Kingston is good and fast I think that if you can’t handle the press they will cause problems. Luther has some good guards.
1. Jones 2. Washington 3. Bethel 4. Silo 5. Idabel 6. Kiefer 7. Luther 8. Purcell 9. Kingston 10. Alva
If purcell is a top 10 team then 3a is a not very good i wasn't impressed
When Dale is beating most of the top 10 3a teams than I would say 3a maybe weak. Next weeks matchup between Jones and bethel may give a state tournament preview. Washington should ease into the playoffs still 1 with a weak remaining schedule.
If purcell is a top 10 team then 3a is a not very good i wasn't impressed
When Dale is beating most of the top 10 3a teams than I would say 3a maybe weak. Next weeks matchup between Jones and bethel may give a state tournament preview. Washington should ease into the playoffs still 1 with a weak remaining schedule.
Or Dale is just good? I hate that if we are beating teams we assume they “down.” Our girls have our worked every team here lately and doing while beat up. I do think the 3A tournament is going to be fun to watch.
When Dale is beating most of the top 10 3a teams than I would say 3a maybe weak. Next weeks matchup between Jones and bethel may give a state tournament preview. Washington should ease into the playoffs still 1 with a weak remaining schedule.
Or Dale is just good? I hate that if we are beating teams we assume they “down.” Our girls have our worked every team here lately and doing while beat up. I do think the 3A tournament is going to be fun to watch.
I have told several people that Dale maybe one of the top 5 teams in the state all classes. Yes, I believe Dale is that good. I have seen Seiling, Caddo, North, Lincoln, Bethany, Tuttle, Washington, Jones all play and I would say they would compete or beat some of those teams. I don’t know about 5a but CA is legit as well.