Nov. 4th Kiefer vs VC

I am going to have to take Kiefer. No logic in picking VC when they got beat and Kiefer didn’t by Beggs.

Vc isn’t any better then beggs and gave up 70+ to them lol … VC along with beggs are both very overrated this year!! Beggs should have lost tonight to a 2-5 Morris team but squeezed out the win. Kiefer beat them by 2 maybe 3 scores!

Okay at this point which game would you watch Idabel/Eufaula or Kiefer/VC? Both are interesting but I think the statement game belongs to Idabel/Eufaula. If VC doesn’t lose to Beggs I say Kiefer/VC is the game. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but Kiefer and Holdenville have been a nice change to the landscape in 2a.

I hope the weather cooperates for that game. Though rain probably benefits us, I wanna see both teams at 100%. Should be a good one either way

Factual statement. Idabel sat Ravian Larry and A.J. Smith had 185 yards and 4 TD on 11 carries.

Everything I’m hearing is that the schools are talking to move to Thursday.

So how did VC do against Beggs? Doesn't seem like a very sound argument!

Maybe VC played the other teams a little better at times than Kiefer did but it's hard to measure some of the lop sided games when coaches sub out.

Kiefer created those turnovers and it was about half of what you stated. I would assume you are talking about Martel when you say the best player. It has been discussed multiple times, he played all 4 quarters. Ran the ball 15 to 20 times and played defense. They did not about beat Kiefer.

The other game that is intreging is the Kiefer vs Noah game. Noah has the #1 recruit left in the state (Danny Okoye who was just offered by Georgia) he is 6 5 230 and plays D-end and tail back. They also have a couple more D-1 kids. Noah is more talented than Beggs and it looks like they handled them pretty well. 

I think both teams are really good. It could obviously go either way as most games can with similar talent. I would give Kiefer the 6 or 7 out of 10 edge. VC has athletes a step or two below Beggs that can create problems if they get rolling. The RB is quick and shifty. Kiefer has one of the most athletic D-lines I've seen in a long time with speed and athletes behind them. They also have a couple big physical weapons on the edge on offense. If Kiefer comes out flat you could be close but if they start imposing their will it could go the other way in a hurry.  

I'm saying a one score game to the home team if they both show up ready to play. 

I heard red Martel was injured before the game

Looking forward to watching it.