Kiefer vs Beggs

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 9:25:21 GMT -6 via mobile ndstruckt likes this

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Post by wildcat59 on Oct 14, 2022 9:25:21 GMT -6

Kiefer 7-0 but no nothing about them. Surely someone knows something about them. Beggs seems to be a different team every week. I will take Beggs but would like to know more about Kiefer. Heck I might just drive up there to check them out Friday night.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 9:37:20 GMT -6 via mobile

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Oct 14, 2022 9:25:21 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Kiefer 7-0 but no nothing about them. Surely someone knows something about them. Beggs seems to be a different team every week. I will take Beggs but would like to know more about Kiefer. Heck I might just drive up there to check them out Friday night.

Someone find a live stream for this game and post it! A lot of folks want to know about Kiefer.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6

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Post by catdaddyadkins on Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6

After a rough offseason full of strife these boys are playing greatand have earned the undefeated record by overcoming lots of adversity. They worked their tails off this summer and are reaping the rewards of their hard work. Despite coaching trying to get cute sometimes and this dumb offense getting in the way this is a close group of boys that play hard for each other and never quit. Everyone doubting if they belong in the top 10 rankings are only saying that because we are kiefer. If we had another name or werent viewed as just of bunch of white boys then we would be ranked top 5. These boys will prove that they belong this week vs beggs. Beggs barely beat kansas so im not sure how the heck they are ranked but Kiefer isnt. I am not naive enough to say that Kiefer is going to win state but they will win district and they will prove they belong in the top 10 rankings discussion this season. If we did not lose Matheson to Sand Springs and get stuck with the coach's son at QB we'd be even better.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 15:07:08 GMT -6

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Post by C3po on Oct 14, 2022 15:07:08 GMT -6

Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6 catdaddyadkins said:

After a rough offseason full of strife these boys are playing greatand have earned the undefeated record by overcoming lots of adversity. They worked their tails off this summer and are reaping the rewards of their hard work. Despite coaching trying to get cute sometimes and this dumb offense getting in the way this is a close group of boys that play hard for each other and never quit. Everyone doubting if they belong in the top 10 rankings are only saying that because we are kiefer. If we had another name or werent viewed as just of bunch of white boys then we would be ranked top 5. These boys will prove that they belong this week vs beggs. Beggs barely beat kansas so im not sure how the heck they are ranked but Kiefer isnt. I am not naive enough to say that Kiefer is going to win state but they will win district and they will prove they belong in the top 10 rankings discussion this season. If we did not lose Matheson to Sand Springs and get stuck with the coach's son at QB we'd be even better.

I don't think anyone is down on Kiefer. They are having a really nice season. It's just that Beggs has a significant talent advantage. Stanton is an absolute problem as a lead blocker at tackle, and Martel is arguably the most productive non-QB in all of class 2A. They will score a lot of points against Kiefer and it's difficult to see Kiefer's offense being able to match them. I hope that match-up turns out to be a great game!

Although Victory Christian has some very obvious short-comings, they will still play a key role in determining the district 7 championship along with Beggs. If Kiefer beats Beggs and Victory, don't worry, respect and rankings will definitely come. If they split, Kiefer could still possibly crack the top 10 depending on what else happens.

As far as being viewed as a "bunch of white boys", you do realize that with the exception of Millwood, the top 5 teams are pretty much just as you say.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 20:35:08 GMT -6 via mobile

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Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6 catdaddyadkins said:

After a rough offseason full of strife these boys are playing greatand have earned the undefeated record by overcoming lots of adversity. They worked their tails off this summer and are reaping the rewards of their hard work. Despite coaching trying to get cute sometimes and this dumb offense getting in the way this is a close group of boys that play hard for each other and never quit. Everyone doubting if they belong in the top 10 rankings are only saying that because we are kiefer. If we had another name or werent viewed as just of bunch of white boys then we would be ranked top 5. These boys will prove that they belong this week vs beggs. Beggs barely beat kansas so im not sure how the heck they are ranked but Kiefer isnt. I am not naive enough to say that Kiefer is going to win state but they will win district and they will prove they belong in the top 10 rankings discussion this season. If we did not lose Matheson to Sand Springs and get stuck with the coach's son at QB we'd be even better.

Well glad we found someone who knows something about Kiefer finally. QB at Sand Springs is a freshman if I'm not mistaking and the kid that moved in got moved to full back. Assume that's the kid your talking about. Well maybe Friday night will shed some light on this Kiefer team.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 14, 2022 20:41:56 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by wildcat59 on Oct 14, 2022 20:41:56 GMT -6

Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6 catdaddyadkins said:

After a rough offseason full of strife these boys are playing greatand have earned the undefeated record by overcoming lots of adversity. They worked their tails off this summer and are reaping the rewards of their hard work. Despite coaching trying to get cute sometimes and this dumb offense getting in the way this is a close group of boys that play hard for each other and never quit. Everyone doubting if they belong in the top 10 rankings are only saying that because we are kiefer. If we had another name or werent viewed as just of bunch of white boys then we would be ranked top 5. These boys will prove that they belong this week vs beggs. Beggs barely beat kansas so im not sure how the heck they are ranked but Kiefer isnt. I am not naive enough to say that Kiefer is going to win state but they will win district and they will prove they belong in the top 10 rankings discussion this season. If we did not lose Matheson to Sand Springs and get stuck with the coach's son at QB we'd be even better.

Hey does Kiefer do live broadcast of games and if so what's the site or link?

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 17, 2022 12:36:36 GMT -6 sooner28 likes this

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Oct 14, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -6 catdaddyadkins said:

After a rough offseason full of strife these boys are playing greatand have earned the undefeated record by overcoming lots of adversity. They worked their tails off this summer and are reaping the rewards of their hard work. Despite coaching trying to get cute sometimes and this dumb offense getting in the way this is a close group of boys that play hard for each other and never quit. Everyone doubting if they belong in the top 10 rankings are only saying that because we are kiefer. If we had another name or werent viewed as just of bunch of white boys then we would be ranked top 5. These boys will prove that they belong this week vs beggs. Beggs barely beat kansas so im not sure how the heck they are ranked but Kiefer isnt. I am not naive enough to say that Kiefer is going to win state but they will win district and they will prove they belong in the top 10 rankings discussion this season. If we did not lose Matheson to Sand Springs and get stuck with the coach's son at QB we'd be even better.

Wow. Unreal.

wildcat59 Freshmen Posts: 49	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 21, 2022 20:51:23 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by wildcat59 on Oct 21, 2022 20:51:23 GMT -6 Kiefer 28 Beggs 14

johnsmith MVP 1000 Posts: 1,408	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 21, 2022 20:53:37 GMT -6 via mobile mrtushka likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by johnsmith on Oct 21, 2022 20:53:37 GMT -6 Congrats on the win catdaddyadkins. Beggs has to be one of the most disappointing, overrated teams in a long time. What a waste of such talent.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 21, 2022 22:25:44 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by C3po on Oct 21, 2022 22:25:44 GMT -6

Oct 21, 2022 20:51:23 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Kiefer 28 Beggs 14

That's a really good win for Kiefer and means District 7 will come down to the wire on November 4th when Keifer plays Victory and Beggs plays Sperry. If Keifer wins, they win District 7, but if Victory wins, it gets interesting.

Kiefer is +57 with 0 losses.
Victory is +45 with 1 loss.
Beggs is currently +35 with 1 loss.

All 3 are likely to win by 15 or more next week, so...if Victory and Beggs win out, the tie breaker goes to Point margin. In that tie breaker, Beggs finishes 3rd and Victory has to beat Kiefer by 13 to win the district, otherwise they finish 2nd. If Sperry beat Beggs, the 2 team tie breaker is settled by head to head and Victory automatically gets the 1 seed by beating Kiefer.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 21, 2022 22:45:42 GMT -6 via mobile

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Oct 21, 2022 22:25:44 GMT -6 C3po said:

Oct 21, 2022 20:51:23 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Kiefer 28 Beggs 14

That's a really good win for Kiefer and means District 7 will come down to the wire on November 4th when Keifer plays Victory and Beggs plays Sperry. If Keifer wins, they win District 7, but if Victory wins, it gets interesting.

Kiefer is +57 with 0 losses.
Victory is +45 with 1 loss.
Beggs is currently +35 with 1 loss.

All 3 are likely to win by 15 or more next week, so...if Victory and Beggs win out, the tie breaker goes to Point margin. In that tie breaker, Beggs finishes 3rd and Victory has to beat Kiefer by 13 to win the district, otherwise they finish 2nd. If Sperry beat Beggs, the 2 team tie breaker is settled by head to head and Victory automatically gets the 1 seed by beating Kiefer.

Wouldn’t VCS only have to win by 7? Marginal points would deduct 7 from Kiefer and add 7 to VCS. That’s a 14 point swing. I may be incorrect it I believe that’s how that would work.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 21, 2022 22:56:06 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by C3po on Oct 21, 2022 22:56:06 GMT -6

Oct 21, 2022 22:45:42 GMT -6 dracovici said:

Oct 21, 2022 22:25:44 GMT -6 C3po said:

That's a really good win for Kiefer and means District 7 will come down to the wire on November 4th when Keifer plays Victory and Beggs plays Sperry. If Keifer wins, they win District 7, but if Victory wins, it gets interesting.

Kiefer is +57 with 0 losses.
Victory is +45 with 1 loss.
Beggs is currently +35 with 1 loss.

All 3 are likely to win by 15 or more next week, so...if Victory and Beggs win out, the tie breaker goes to Point margin. In that tie breaker, Beggs finishes 3rd and Victory has to beat Kiefer by 13 to win the district, otherwise they finish 2nd. If Sperry beat Beggs, the 2 team tie breaker is settled by head to head and Victory automatically gets the 1 seed by beating Kiefer.

Wouldn’t VCS only have to win by 7? Marginal points would deduct 7 from Kiefer and add 7 to VCS. That’s a 14 point swing. I may be incorrect it I believe that’s how that would work.

Correct. I should avoid math at night.

doubledeuce Freshmen Posts: 90	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 22, 2022 10:00:45 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by doubledeuce on Oct 22, 2022 10:00:45 GMT -6 Reviewing some scores... did Martel play in this one?

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 22, 2022 14:06:04 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 14:06:04 GMT -6 I feel like someone at Beggs has to be on the hotseat at this point as much as they have underachieved

wildcat59 Freshmen Posts: 49	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 22, 2022 14:41:39 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by wildcat59 on Oct 22, 2022 14:41:39 GMT -6 Oct 22, 2022 10:00:45 GMT -6 doubledeuce said: Reviewing some scores... did Martel play in this one? Yes he did and had 3-4 fumbles

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 23, 2022 12:25:40 GMT -6 via mobile

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Oct 22, 2022 14:41:39 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Oct 22, 2022 10:00:45 GMT -6 doubledeuce said:

Reviewing some scores... did Martel play in this one?

Yes he did and had 3-4 fumbles

I was told he got hurt in practice earlier in the week and only played 15-20 reps but just couldn’t go. Also, he didn’t have any of the fumbles that was their other RB.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 23, 2022 13:30:03 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by C3po on Oct 23, 2022 13:30:03 GMT -6

Oct 23, 2022 12:25:40 GMT -6 vcfootball said:

Oct 22, 2022 14:41:39 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Yes he did and had 3-4 fumbles

I was told he got hurt in practice earlier in the week and only played 15-20 reps but just couldn’t go. Also, he didn’t have any of the fumbles that was their other RB.

That explains a lot as Martel is 80% of their offensive production and scheme.

johnsmith MVP 1000 Posts: 1,408	Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 23, 2022 13:48:39 GMT -6 via mobile mrtushka likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by johnsmith on Oct 23, 2022 13:48:39 GMT -6 No doubt Martel not being 100% hurts, but come on. This is 2A Oklahoma football. Beggs has 2 other D1 football players on that team, along with other talent. They’re just overrated.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 23, 2022 18:03:55 GMT -6 via mobile mrtushka and johnsmith like this

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Oct 23, 2022 13:48:39 GMT -6 johnsmith said:

No doubt Martel not being 100% hurts, but come on. This is 2A Oklahoma football. Beggs has 2 other D1 football players on that team, along with other talent. They’re just overrated.

very poorly coached! To much talent across the board to be that bad! Congrats to Kiefer on a well played game.

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Kiefer vs Beggs Oct 23, 2022 19:24:48 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by wildcat59 on Oct 23, 2022 19:24:48 GMT -6

Oct 23, 2022 12:25:40 GMT -6 vcfootball said:

Oct 22, 2022 14:41:39 GMT -6 wildcat59 said:

Yes he did and had 3-4 fumbles

I was told he got hurt in practice earlier in the week and only played 15-20 reps but just couldn’t go. Also, he didn’t have any of the fumbles that was their other RB.

Not sure if he was 100% or not but I can tell you he played more than 15-20 reps. Unless someone else was wearing #11.

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