Did we overrate Pioneer?

I think Pioneer is a big example of this

They are a top 20 team at best not a top 10

Even BrianLeGrand and pepperbrown would agree

If a district system is what it takes to even it out then so be it.

I'm sure coaches will hate it but I think it's needed cause you have to much politics and buddy system in the rankings. By buddy system I mean it's the ol' if you rank me I'll rank you crap

I’m hearing they are talking about in baseball doing the rankings just like they are but adding one more ranking after districts for just the teams that win their districts. That would take away any votes for people without a dog in fight

I get so sick of hearing bout the rankings are a joke. There is always a example or two every year of a team being over ranked or under ranked. On various sports. But i pay close attention to baseball basketball and softball and I’m gonna say that the coaches get it right 80%\85% of the time. Maby 90%+. What I mean By that is out of the top 8 teams they usually get at least 6 or more in the state tournament.there’s no way to get it perfect if U go to Dist play that don’t solve it either. U can’t change the whole system up because one team got in that is weak. If it was district play it’s done predetermined where your gonna go according to how u finished in your district. With rankings like this year if u give the top 8 a regional u can always send a team U think is stronger to a place like pioneer to make sure u get the best 8 in. I’ve seen the ossaa do this several times in various sports.there is no perfect system but I think rankings are the best solution there is. And lady raiders I’m not taking a shot at u so don’t take it that way.I’m just speaking in general.

Well if they have there doubts that someone might not b that good they can do stuff like that. Like if they thought pioneer was overrated they could of stacked there regional with say number 9/10 versus say number 14/19. And some schools will flat volunteer to go to places they think a team is overrated.

Yeah it happens. A coach calls in volunteers to go somewhere or travel to a playoff site.few years back Whitesboro and red oak was gonna b in the same regional and shidler Coach thought he was better than the Boro so he volunteered to go to that regional. He thought he could beat the Boro and get in as runner up. He was wrong. Then I know a east coach that volunteered to go west in softball and they sent him 3.5/4 hours west for districts. They won the district against higher ranked teams. It happens.

The fact that we're citing ONE team as an example of why the rankings are a "joke" should tell you something. Are there some politics involved? Yeah, it happens a little; but not nearly as much as people think. When I was coaching, I only had one coach who texted me two or three times to tell me about his team. I've seen all of the coaches' rankings from both fall and spring this year, and there really wasn't much that stood out.

As far as Pioneer goes, I think it's obvious to everyone that their schedule was pretty weak this year, but I would say that the lower half of the top 10 is probably about where they belong.

Seriously? You think beating the number 16 or number 17 in Class B means anything? Outside of MAYBE the top 4 anybody worth their weight in Class A or above should not be losing to anyone else in Class B. I could go pull nine kids off the street and have a good chance at beating a lot of those Class B teams that aren't in the top 10. It's some really bad baseball.
There's not any rankings above 2A so how did those teams do against people in 3A and above?
I know Wright City beat several. That holds a lot more weight in my book than some win over a #17 team in B.

Tell me why you want a Dist system? Tell me how youd separate the Class A Dist's? What benefit do you think there is with having a Dist format? You want to scrap this format because of Pioneer getting in over someone?