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Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 7:25:57 GMT -6

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Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 7:25:57 GMT -6

This is not a troll post of any kind. Just saw something on Twitter last night that I couldn't believe. The tweet was that Tahlequah boys had to forfeit games for playing a kid that had already graduated. Again, this isn't a troll post. If it was a 100 percent lie, delete this thread. But it was true enough for at least one team to go back and change their record and outcome against Tahlequah.

ahrenvans Junior Posts: 453 Favorite Sport: Basketball	Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ahrenvans on Mar 8, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -6 Wow! I just looked at OSSAARankings and it shows almost all of their games as forfeits.

missinglink Freshmen Posts: 93	Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 9:20:03 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 9:20:03 GMT -6 Mar 8, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -6 ahrenvans said: Wow! I just looked at OSSAARankings and it shows almost all of their games as forfeits. I don't understand how you play a graduated player if that really was the case.

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Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 10:49:01 GMT -6

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Post by SSFootball on Mar 8, 2022 10:49:01 GMT -6

Tigers forced to forfeit wins

By BYRON BEERS bbeers@tahlequahdailypress.com 12 hrs ago

The Tahlequah boys' basketball program received a black eye Monday.

The Tigers, who went 17-8 overall after closing their season Friday, March 4 with a 100-47 loss to Jenks in a Class 6A East Area Tournament loser's bracket game, are now technically 1-24.

The program was forced to vacate all but one of its wins due to eligibility issues of senior guard Luis Santana.

Santana, who was a senior in 2020-21 at Hulbert before transferring to Tahlequah, was initially ruled eligible to play leading up to the 2021-22 season opener.

A student has to be eligible both academically and athletically, per Oklahoma Secondary School Activities Association rules. Santana was ruled eligible to participate athletically but not academically.

"He was ruled academically ineligible," Tahlequah Athletics Director Matt Cloud said. "It was news to me. I was totally blown away. It was a mistake that shouldn't have happened. We have to forfeit all the games he suited up in and we're on one year probation where we can't have anymore incidents like this. As soon as we were notified we took steps to make sure that the claims were legit."

"We had a player that was…he'd already graduated from high school when he came to us," Tahlequah head coach Marcus Klingsick said. "He was entered in school and we checked everything out to the best of our knowledge, and it came back okay. It turned out he had already [graduated].

"I knew he was a new kid, so we tried to get everything to the right people, and I did all of that. I checked before our first game and I was told everything was good. That's all I know about it."

Santana was with the team nearly the entire season. He wasn't with the team in the Tigers' regular season finale against Claremore or during the three playoff games against Bartlesville, Putnam City West and Jenks. Tahlequah defeated Bartlesville, 58-54, to open postseason play, and it will be counted as the lone victory.

Klingsick met with the team Monday to discuss the situation.

"I told them this was going to come out today," Klingsick said. "I told them, 'Just know we played those games and we won all of those games. We're going to forfeit the games.' To me, it's not that big a deal. We went out and we had a season. We had a really good season. I don't think this is devastating or anything. Yes, we're going to have to forfeit the games and our record won't be that good, but we went out and played the season and the record we earned before they took the wins away, that's what we earned."

Santana appeared in 12 games, scored 13 points and averaged four minutes of playing time. His last appearance was on Feb. 15 against Pryor at the Tahlequah Multipurpose Activity Center.

The Tigers had their best stretch of play late in the season when they won seven consecutive games before the regular season finale. They defeated Sand Springs, Coweta, Glenpool, Grove, Pryor, Skiatook and Pryor.

keyboardwarrior Freshmen Posts: 38 Favorite Sport: Football	Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 10:53:20 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by keyboardwarrior on Mar 8, 2022 10:53:20 GMT -6 He said it's no big deal?

missinglink Freshmen Posts: 93	Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 8, 2022 11:40:37 GMT -6 greencountry likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 11:40:37 GMT -6 Sounds like that is more on admin than coach. Sounds like the coach should have never been put in that situation.

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Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 14, 2022 11:17:40 GMT -6

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Post by greencountry on Mar 14, 2022 11:17:40 GMT -6

Mar 8, 2022 7:25:57 GMT -6 missinglink said:

This is not a troll post of any kind. Just saw something on Twitter last night that I couldn't believe. The tweet was that Tahlequah boys had to forfeit games for playing a kid that had already graduated. Again, this isn't a troll post. If it was a 100 percent lie, delete this thread. But it was true enough for at least one team to go back and change their record and outcome against Tahlequah.

Interesting. It seems this shouldn't happen. Just looking at this from a high level, it seems the kid wasn't a key player "Santana appeared in 12 games, scored 13 points and averaged four minutes of playing time. His last appearance was on Feb. 15 against Pryor at the Tahlequah Multipurpose Activity Center". So I wouldn't think the coach was doing anything deceiving to keep him on the team?

thanks for sharing! This is interesting and definitely a good warning to all schools to make sure they understand the rules and background of transfers!

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Tahlequah Illegal Player Mar 29, 2022 8:16:39 GMT -6

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Post by ahrenvans on Mar 29, 2022 8:16:39 GMT -6

Mar 8, 2022 10:49:01 GMT -6 SSFootball said:

Tigers forced to forfeit wins

By BYRON BEERS bbeers@tahlequahdailypress.com 12 hrs ago

The Tahlequah boys' basketball program received a black eye Monday.

The Tigers, who went 17-8 overall after closing their season Friday, March 4 with a 100-47 loss to Jenks in a Class 6A East Area Tournament loser's bracket game, are now technically 1-24.

The program was forced to vacate all but one of its wins due to eligibility issues of senior guard Luis Santana.

Santana, who was a senior in 2020-21 at Hulbert before transferring to Tahlequah, was initially ruled eligible to play leading up to the 2021-22 season opener.

A student has to be eligible both academically and athletically, per Oklahoma Secondary School Activities Association rules. Santana was ruled eligible to participate athletically but not academically.

"He was ruled academically ineligible," Tahlequah Athletics Director Matt Cloud said. "It was news to me. I was totally blown away. It was a mistake that shouldn't have happened. We have to forfeit all the games he suited up in and we're on one year probation where we can't have anymore incidents like this. As soon as we were notified we took steps to make sure that the claims were legit."

"We had a player that was…he'd already graduated from high school when he came to us," Tahlequah head coach Marcus Klingsick said. "He was entered in school and we checked everything out to the best of our knowledge, and it came back okay. It turned out he had already [graduated].

"I knew he was a new kid, so we tried to get everything to the right people, and I did all of that. I checked before our first game and I was told everything was good. That's all I know about it."

Santana was with the team nearly the entire season. He wasn't with the team in the Tigers' regular season finale against Claremore or during the three playoff games against Bartlesville, Putnam City West and Jenks. Tahlequah defeated Bartlesville, 58-54, to open postseason play, and it will be counted as the lone victory.

Klingsick met with the team Monday to discuss the situation.

"I told them this was going to come out today," Klingsick said. "I told them, 'Just know we played those games and we won all of those games. We're going to forfeit the games.' To me, it's not that big a deal. We went out and we had a season. We had a really good season. I don't think this is devastating or anything. Yes, we're going to have to forfeit the games and our record won't be that good, but we went out and played the season and the record we earned before they took the wins away, that's what we earned."

Santana appeared in 12 games, scored 13 points and averaged four minutes of playing time. His last appearance was on Feb. 15 against Pryor at the Tahlequah Multipurpose Activity Center.

The Tigers had their best stretch of play late in the season when they won seven consecutive games before the regular season finale. They defeated Sand Springs, Coweta, Glenpool, Grove, Pryor, Skiatook and Pryor.

WOW!! That's wild.

mosooner Trainee Posts: 5	Tahlequah Illegal Player Jul 26, 2022 11:31:40 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by mosooner on Jul 26, 2022 11:31:40 GMT -6 Really an unfortunate situation. Sometimes its hard to know everything you need to about transfers.

Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 7:25:57 GMT -6

Post by ahrenvans on Mar 8, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -6

Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 9:20:03 GMT -6

Post by SSFootball on Mar 8, 2022 10:49:01 GMT -6

Post by keyboardwarrior on Mar 8, 2022 10:53:20 GMT -6

Post by missinglink on Mar 8, 2022 11:40:37 GMT -6

Post by greencountry on Mar 14, 2022 11:17:40 GMT -6

Post by ahrenvans on Mar 29, 2022 8:16:39 GMT -6

Post by mosooner on Jul 26, 2022 11:31:40 GMT -6