Pirates shot it like I expect them too. Beat Wewoka 106-74. Good Bounce back. Wish we could’ve came out last night with that intensity. Always curious to see how teams respond after big wins/loses. Cashion beats Wellston in OT 57-52. Wewoka will be a problem for most teams. Good Luck to them the rest of the way.
How in the world do you not play with intensity against a top 5 team. Seems like excuses to me
No excuses made. The intensity just wasn’t there. Hope to see your Wildcats on Saturday.
Dale yeah not unless something changes. I watched a little on y'all's link last night and some of the Wewoka guys I've never seen before lol. I've been out of the loop the past few weeks so maybe some are out due to covid or tracing I'm not sure. I do know in the konawa tournament last week they only had 7 players so maybe they just asked some kids to come out and that's the reason I didn't know them. Good luck to yall the rest of the way. I expect to see y'all in the state tournament just not win it. Something always happens lol. Prove me wrong. Just teasing ya a little.
Dale yeah not unless something changes. I watched a little on y'all's link last night and some of the Wewoka guys I've never seen before lol. I've been out of the loop the past few weeks so maybe some are out due to covid or tracing I'm not sure. I do know in the konawa tournament last week they only had 7 players so maybe they just asked some kids to come out and that's the reason I didn't know them. Good luck to yall the rest of the way. I expect to see y'all in the state tournament just not win it. Something always happens lol. Prove me wrong. Just teasing ya a little.
Post by runninrebel14 on Jan 17, 2021 13:52:54 GMT -6
Abe its the old argument what’s more impressive, playing easy schedule and racking up the wins or playing a tough schedule with bigger schools and taking some losses?. I would have to say Minco schedule is impressive . Just 0-3 against the top 5 teams. There 5 losses were to 3a #2 crossings in triple overtime, #6a Jenks tied going into the 4th, #3 4a Webster 5 point game midway through 4th, #2 2a hooker closer than score indicated and also were missing leading scorer. I can’t think another team in 2a that could have beaten any of those teams and very few could even play them close. Let’s compare now some of the other teams that have a better record Pawhuska- 6-1 have only played one ranked team ( Pawnee and lost by 6) have only beaten two teams with a winning record and 1 team above class 2a ( Dewey 1-9). Pawnee- 9-0 only played 2 ranked team pawhuska and Morrison, all teams 2a or below except for class 3a Alva (7-5) Hennessey- 8-1 have only played 1 ranked team and lost (cashion) Have played mostly 2a teams and 3a in new Kirk. I think all of these teams could be good but it’s hard to tell when they haven’t played good teams. In a year where games are getting dropped and added in a days notice these teams can go and play some bigger school and higher ranked teams. To me playing tougher teams close and taking a loss is more impressive than playing bad teams and beating them by 30, well in some cases only beating them by single digits.
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Post by runninrebel14 on Jan 17, 2021 15:38:19 GMT -6
Let’s also look at ranked wins Pawnee- 2a #9 pawhuska by 6, 2a #19 Morrison by 8 Hennessey- no ranked wins Minco- 2a #17 (15) OCA by 26, A #16 Alex by 8, 2a #20 (UR) magnum by 8 Pawhuska- 2a UR (19) Morrison by 3
Dale 6-1 against the top 20 and have played some 3a, 4a teams Cashion 5-1 against top 20 but all 2a and below Ok union 3-0 against top 20 and beat a couple 4a and 1 5a schools
Let’s also look at ranked wins Pawnee- 2a #9 pawhuska by 6, 2a #19 Morrison by 8 Hennessey- no ranked wins Minco- 2a #17 (15) OCA by 26, A #16 Alex by 8, 2a #20 (UR) magnum by 8 Pawhuska- 2a UR (19) Morrison by 3
Dale 6-1 against the top 20 and have played some 3a, 4a teams Cashion 5-1 against top 20 but all 2a and below Ok union 3-0 against top 20 and beat a couple 4a and 1 5a schools
Post by runninrebel14 on Jan 17, 2021 17:37:16 GMT -6
1. Hooker- very good defense. Big wins against minco and cashion. Big also 2. Cashion- only loss To hooker and has beaten dale 3. Dale- has the best resume so far , if it wasn’t for missed freethrows they would be my #1. Any of these top 3 could be an easy choice for #1. 4. Ok union- undefeated wins against a 5a and a couple 4a 5. Minco- have played a murders row schedule very competitive without there leading scorer who I heard should be back soon 6. Pawnee- have only played a couple of ranked teams and it was close. Kind of going off the success they had last year 7. Howe- have not seen them play this year but looks like they have been competitive on a tough schedule also 8. Oca- another team that plays a brutal schedule and is battle tested 9. Hennessey- I think they are solid, maybe after this weeks tournaments we will find out. .biggest wins could be under radar team in watonga 10. Silo- two 6’7 kids will get them far 11. Wewoka- if they get it together they could beat anybody. So far doesn’t look like it but season is only halfway over 12. Nowata- loss to Oklahoma union In ot. Really good shooter. 13. Watonga- Haven’t played very many games. Big athletic and well coached. My sleeper team 14. Pawhuska- have played two good teams and split Pawnee and Morrison. Only game I have seen of theirs is Preston and probably there worst played game to go off of. Need to watch again 15. Ampo- well coached and disciplined These teams are worthy of ranking just running out of time to try and place them In order Morrison , hulbert, Panama, oktaha, hobart amd Frederick What do yours look like dale yeah?
1. Hooker- Minco is there best win I believe. Very long and athletic. I wish they played more down state. #1 right now. I don’t see them losing either, but I also haven’t seen their Enid Festival schedule. 2. Cashion- they won against My Pirates and only loss is to Hooker in OT without Lagasse. 3. Dale- I really hope we can get another shot at Cashion, but this will do right now. I have high expectations for this group. I too can see the top three in different orders. 4. Minco- If they call out of the top 8 someone is going home that is 1-8. Played Hooker without there best player and was a tight ballgame. They have a SOS of 1. 5. OK Union- I wish they competed more. If anyone 1-4 played that schedule they’d be undefeated. 6. Pawnee- Again play no one but have had some close ones. Not sure about them as I haven’t seen them in person. 7. Hennessey- Lost to Cashion by 7. Which earns them some respect. 8. Howe- I’m curious because they are barely beating teams I think they should be demolishing. The lone win is against a Roland team that is slowly falling in the polls. 9. OCA- Tough schedule. Dale goes there to play in a few weeks I believe. Should be a dandy. 10. Silo- the size and decent shooting is going to give people problems. They are a sleeper. 11. Wewoka- Athletic. Didn’t have a starter or 7th man against Dale but they will be a nightmare for most teams. 12. Pawhuska- lost to Pawnee by 6, but I don’t know what they have. 13. Nowata- might be one to surprise. I can’t tell if they are good or if OK U is a average. I’m interested In seeing them. 14. AmPo- get to see them next Monday. I’ll know more then. 15. Morrison- Nice wins and some close loses to some good teams.
Post by bigsmooooove on Jan 19, 2021 9:38:21 GMT -6
Honestly, ABE, I meant no sarcasm, either implied or intentional. I wish your team well in the playoffs. I'm taking a shot in the dark by guessing that you took my above reply in that way....that was not my intention at all. Good luck to all in the coming weeks.
Disclaimer: My Trojans haven't played in about 2wks, so I'm enjoying watching some of yalls game streams to get me by.
But according to cashions announcer Nabavi cashion should be the number 1 ranked team in 2A lmao
#1 team in 2A shouldn’t be in OT with a 7-5 class A team 😂
No ill towards you hunter just can’t stand the Nabavi guy
just curious.....how do you determine if one team is better than the other?
To determine the better team you prolly have to go with body of work. With that being said Cashion was the better team that night and beat Dale. But does that mean cashion is better then dale??? idk. tough to determine who is better in just one game. That is why the NBA plays multiple games in the playoffs to get the best teams at the end. And especially dealing with 16/17 year old kids you never know who is going to show up that night. Be anxious to see dale and cashion matchup again at the cashion tournament.
I think the Top four teams in 2A are Hooker, Dale, Cashion, and Minco. In no particular order. I think those are truly the best four teams in 2A and anyone of those teams could beat the other on any night. One of these teams will win state this year in 2A.
Ok Union needs to be in the conversation. I know my cougars have underachieved in the last couple years, but we have learned from our mistakes. With that being said, I don't see anyone matching up with Hooker. Too big, Too athletic, Too talented, Too well coached. I think it is their year.
Ok Union needs to be in the conversation. I know my cougars have underachieved in the last couple years, but we have learned from our mistakes. With that being said, I don't see anyone matching up with Hooker. Too big, Too athletic, Too talented, Too well coached. I think it is their year.
They play a super weak schedule and there's no telling what draw they get either, I think they would need a miracle draw to even get out of Area