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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 13:43:37 GMT -6 via mobile

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Aug 29, 2022 13:03:56 GMT -6 dtrain said:

Aug 29, 2022 12:57:06 GMT -6 cguthrie said:

Designed runs like fumbled snaps, and scrambles during designed pass plays? I could count on two hand s the number of snaps that were low and on the ground. You guys got a whistle and the ball back in the same exact location. In real games that is turnovers. Wewoka may be one of if not the worst team I have witnessed this year.

Clearly you didn't watch the same scrimmage. We run a flexbone offense which is an option offense by the way. QB pretty much under center every play hardly any bad snaps or low snaps. We hardly threw the ball at all. You been a hater of Wynnewood ever since you got on this forum. You act like they haven't been good at all since the 80's and that they can't possibly ever be good again.

In all fairness Wynnewood has been trash since the 2017 season. They were okay in 2017 but they have been absolutely horrible since then. Kudos to you remaining loyal.

Also y’all are arguing about a scrimmage. Who cares if you lie snapped, fumbled, was penalized, etc. I think it’s time to move on.

boomersooner16 Junior Posts: 253	Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 13:46:38 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by boomersooner16 on Aug 29, 2022 13:46:38 GMT -6 Until Cashion loses to someone in class A, or a bad 2A team, I think it is kinda hard to not have them at 1. Even despite returning talent, loss to rejoice, etc. Rejoice will be towards the top in 2A all season.
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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 16:54:26 GMT -6 via mobile

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Your number ones ran the flex exclusively out of the pistol. Your center is snapping the ball with two hands. That might beat bad 2A teams and average class a teams, but y’all would get demolished by a legit top 10 class a team. Gore beat Willburton 60-0 and you had the audacity to make a sideways comment. Valliant and Tish are going to be on the same level as Willburton. If y’all don’t beat Valiant by 60, will you admit y’all are trash? I don’t want to come back on this forum and see you talking about “we played a bad game.” or “Valliant is better than their record”. I want you to make a declaration right now, how bad are y’all going to win against yalls bad 2A school?

Aug 29, 2022 13:03:56 GMT -6 dtrain said:

Aug 29, 2022 12:57:06 GMT -6 cguthrie said:

Designed runs like fumbled snaps, and scrambles during designed pass plays? I could count on two hand s the number of snaps that were low and on the ground. You guys got a whistle and the ball back in the same exact location. In real games that is turnovers. Wewoka may be one of if not the worst team I have witnessed this year.

Clearly you didn't watch the same scrimmage. We run a flexbone offense which is an option offense by the way. QB pretty much under center every play hardly any bad snaps or low snaps. We hardly threw the ball at all. You been a hater of Wynnewood ever since you got on this forum. You act like they haven't been good at all since the 80's and that they can't possibly ever be good again.

dtrain MVP 1000 Posts: 1,264 Favorite Sport: None	Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 16:56:54 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dtrain on Aug 29, 2022 16:56:54 GMT -6 We have only been bad the last 3 years. Some of y'all act like it's been 10 years since they had a winning season. They were 7-4 in 2018.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 16:57:43 GMT -6 via mobile

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Arguing over scrimmages because Wynnewood fans weren’t putting themselves in the top 10 prior to spring ball and scrimmages. Wewoka is a bad class a team and they didn’t absolutely have their way with them. I just love how they went from 4-6 last year to a top 10 team. When it is all said and done, I will be more correct on weeniewood than their fans are.

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Aug 29, 2022 13:03:56 GMT -6 dtrain said:

Clearly you didn't watch the same scrimmage. We run a flexbone offense which is an option offense by the way. QB pretty much under center every play hardly any bad snaps or low snaps. We hardly threw the ball at all. You been a hater of Wynnewood ever since you got on this forum. You act like they haven't been good at all since the 80's and that they can't possibly ever be good again.

In all fairness Wynnewood has been trash since the 2017 season. They were okay in 2017 but they have been absolutely horrible since then. Kudos to you remaining loyal.

Also y’all are arguing about a scrimmage. Who cares if you lie snapped, fumbled, was penalized, etc. I think it’s time to move on.

dtrain MVP 1000 Posts: 1,264 Favorite Sport: None	Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 16:59:22 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dtrain on Aug 29, 2022 16:59:22 GMT -6 What sideways comment did I make about Gore? They haven't won anything ever. There not a top 5 team. Top 5 teams make it past the 2nd round. They lost 2 years in a row in the 2nd round on there own home field.
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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 17:05:23 GMT -6 via mobile

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“I’ve heard that for two years.” Last time Wynnewood won state, George W’s daddy was president. I’ve heard for decades how Wynnewood is the end all be all of small school football, yet there aren’t even 30 kids on the team. Gore has provided us scientific data of when a legit contender in Class A plays a bad 2A school. I just want to hear the excuses when Tishomingo and Valiant play y’all tougher than Willburton did Gore. You still haven’t answered my question. How bad do you have to win Friday to justify calling your team top 10?

Aug 29, 2022 16:59:22 GMT -6 dtrain said:

What sideways comment did I make about Gore? They haven't won anything ever.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 17:09:24 GMT -6 via mobile

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Aug 29, 2022 7:49:40 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:

Aug 28, 2022 16:15:52 GMT -6 3rdand1 said:

And move Fairview down a few.

Or you could just put up your rankings and place Fairview where you see fit. I believe Fairview is a top 5 team. I’d probably put Watonga in the top 10. They have some real talent there if they can keep their mouths shut, stay eligible, stop getting into trouble outside of school, and just care a little about what they can accomplish. Hooker probably isn’t a top 10 team being how young they are but they definitely have some talent.

Wynnewood…they’ve been pretty horrific the last couple years. Surely we will see some improvement from them. Schools don’t fear Wynnewood as much anymore as the did. Plus the coaching there has been bottom of the barrel here lately.

I’m with y’all on Gore. They play in such a weak district it hurts them come playoff time. I mean I feel bad for A-1. There top two teams usually have to play Cashion or Ringling in the second round while Gore gets Woodland or Barnsdall.

Cashion will be decent but it won’t be Cashion that we seen the last few years.

The weak schedule may hurt Gore, but if Class A is as down as everyone says, it sets up perfect for Gore who has 20 seniors playing. Coach Tyler will have those guys as ready as they can be and with the right draw I believe they will be playing over thanksgiving this year.

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They are both just as bad as Holdenville was last year so it will probably be just as similar. I don't know why the point differential matters. We beat Holdenville 54-0 last year Washington beat them 69-0 so does that make us just as good to hang with Washington absolutely not. Gore plays in the weakest district and has one of the easiest schedules in all of class A I would be shocked if they didn't beat every team they play by at least 30 or 40 points. They are doing what talihina used to do to that district for decades.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 18:02:41 GMT -6 via mobile

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Alright, I’m expecting a 54-0 win Friday.

Aug 29, 2022 17:10:46 GMT -6 dtrain said:

They are both just as bad as Holdenville was last year so it will probably be just as similar. I don't know why the point differential matters. We beat Holdenville 54-0 last year Washington beat them 69-0 so does that make us just as good to hang with Washington absolutely not. Gore plays in the weakest district and has one of the easiest schedules in all of class A I would be shocked if they didn't beat every team they play by at least 30 or 40 points. They are doing what talihina used to do to that district for decades.

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Aug 29, 2022 17:10:46 GMT -6 dtrain said:

They are both just as bad as Holdenville was last year so it will probably be just as similar. I don't know why the point differential matters. We beat Holdenville 54-0 last year Washington beat them 69-0 so does that make us just as good to hang with Washington absolutely not. Gore plays in the weakest district and has one of the easiest schedules in all of class A I would be shocked if they didn't beat every team they play by at least 30 or 40 points. They are doing what talihina used to do to that district for decades.

Ok, I went and looked at the Gore schedule and based on what I'm seeing, 5 of the 10 teams they are playing are or were 2A last year. They may not be great teams but that is a lot of size to deal with. Pocola won 7 games in the Vian/Cascia Hall district last year so they should be an 8-9 win team in class A. Haskell will be a tough game and they also play Mounds which was a district (A7?) champion last year. Bottom line, IF they beat all those teams by 40 then they are a legit contender. Claiming Fairview is a contender just because they lost to a good Tonkowa team could easily be applied to Gore losing to a good Woodland team who keeps losing to a good Cashion team. Every year is different with different variables so all we can do is look at returning starters and based on that, Ringling, Gore, Fairview and Woodland would be the favorites. I guess we just need to let the season play out. BTW the AP Oklahoma Prep Football Poll is out and guess what....no Wynnewood. Not even an "other receiving vote".

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Aug 29, 2022 16:57:43 GMT -6 cguthrie said:

Arguing over scrimmages because Wynnewood fans weren’t putting themselves in the top 10 prior to spring ball and scrimmages. Wewoka is a bad class a team and they didn’t absolutely have their way with them. I just love how they went from 4-6 last year to a top 10 team. When it is all said and done, I will be more correct on weeniewood than their fans are.

Aug 29, 2022 13:43:37 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:

In all fairness Wynnewood has been trash since the 2017 season. They were okay in 2017 but they have been absolutely horrible since then. Kudos to you remaining loyal.

Also y’all are arguing about a scrimmage. Who cares if you lie snapped, fumbled, was penalized, etc. I think it’s time to move on.

It’s a scrimmage nonetheless. 4-6 to top ten isn’t unheard of. You are probably right about Wynnewood but to argue about a scrimmage where everything is vanilla. A scrimmage means nothing. It’s a glorified practice.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 20:01:51 GMT -6 via mobile

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Aug 29, 2022 17:09:24 GMT -6 NEOkie said:

Aug 29, 2022 7:49:40 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:

Or you could just put up your rankings and place Fairview where you see fit. I believe Fairview is a top 5 team. I’d probably put Watonga in the top 10. They have some real talent there if they can keep their mouths shut, stay eligible, stop getting into trouble outside of school, and just care a little about what they can accomplish. Hooker probably isn’t a top 10 team being how young they are but they definitely have some talent.

Wynnewood…they’ve been pretty horrific the last couple years. Surely we will see some improvement from them. Schools don’t fear Wynnewood as much anymore as the did. Plus the coaching there has been bottom of the barrel here lately.

I’m with y’all on Gore. They play in such a weak district it hurts them come playoff time. I mean I feel bad for A-1. There top two teams usually have to play Cashion or Ringling in the second round while Gore gets Woodland or Barnsdall.

Cashion will be decent but it won’t be Cashion that we seen the last few years.

The weak schedule may hurt Gore, but if Class A is as down as everyone says, it sets up perfect for Gore who has 20 seniors playing. Coach Tyler will have those guys as ready as they can be and with the right draw I believe they will be playing over thanksgiving this year.

Same thing was sahd last year and the year before.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 20:09:44 GMT -6 via mobile

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Aug 29, 2022 20:01:51 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:

Aug 29, 2022 17:09:24 GMT -6 NEOkie said:

The weak schedule may hurt Gore, but if Class A is as down as everyone says, it sets up perfect for Gore who has 20 seniors playing. Coach Tyler will have those guys as ready as they can be and with the right draw I believe they will be playing over thanksgiving this year.

Same thing was sahd last year and the year before.

You’re right. I’m not discrediting that. But I’m saying if class A is down like everyone says it is, there’s no reason they don’t. You never know when it comes down to it. We’re all on here making our best educated guesses.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 29, 2022 21:40:07 GMT -6

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Aug 29, 2022 20:09:44 GMT -6 NEOkie said:

Aug 29, 2022 20:01:51 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:

Same thing was sahd last year and the year before.

You’re right. I’m not discrediting that. But I’m saying if class A is down like everyone says it is, there’s no reason they don’t. You never know when it comes down to it. We’re all on here making our best educated guesses.

Personally I think both teams are unproven. Is Gore ranked too high? I can't speak on that cause I personally never saw them play but Wynnewood is more unproven than them

Class A is definitely down this year but I guess we play the game for reason right?

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 30, 2022 1:53:08 GMT -6 via mobile nighthawk likes this

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Having several bad seasons or a bad season like the 4-6 one they had last year to being a top ten team or a really good all of sudden the next is something Wynnewood has done several times in the past. In 2015 they were 5-6 and lost in the 1st round to Healdton of all teams and the very next year they was State-Runner up. This is Class A football. It don't take much to turn a bad Class A team into a good one all of a sudden. All you need is one really good player, some decent pieces around, a decent coach that the players have bought into and you will have yourself a good football team. They seem to have that not only for this season but the next two as well seeing how most of there starters are sophomores and juniors.

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 30, 2022 7:32:12 GMT -6 via mobile

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Seems like there is a lot of Wynnewood haters…. I’m not gonna say there a top 10 team but from watching them in there scrimmages they look to be on the right path for success. And there qb Knighten is everything advertised to be. With both field’s kids and there move in at slot could be a rough night for any team they play But only time will tell

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Week 1Top 10. Aug 30, 2022 8:57:05 GMT -6

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Aug 30, 2022 7:32:12 GMT -6 nighthawk said:

Seems like there is a lot of Wynnewood haters…. I’m not gonna say there a top 10 team but from watching them in there scrimmages they look to be on the right path for success. And there qb Knighten is everything advertised to be. With both field’s kids and there move in at slot could be a rough night for any team they play But only time will tell

QB? I thought Knighten was a RB?

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No he is the QB and He's a lefty. He is being recruited as a RB tho. He has a strong arm but you can tell he had never played QB before last year because his mechanics are not all there and he tends to overthrow his guys sometimes. The shorter of the Fields boys is the RB. Last year at times they would switch up and have Fields at QB and Knighten at RB. They run a option style offense this year instead of the spread they ran last year. He is a RB playing QB.

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