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youteachmefootball
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Way too early fall favorites May 31, 2018 11:24:07 GMT -6

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Post by youteachmefootball on May 31, 2018 11:24:07 GMT -6

So who are going to be the favorites this fall and WHY?

Does Owasso have enough to stay on top?

Will the Jenks train actually keep rolling with all the coaching departures?

Can Union bounce back after a tough finals loss?

BA has lots of hyped talent, is it enough for them to finally get over the hump?

and is there anyone else that will even think about challenging those 4?

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Freighttrain
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Way too early fall favorites Jun 8, 2018 7:26:15 GMT -6

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Post by Freighttrain on Jun 8, 2018 7:26:15 GMT -6

The crowd is still out there, just standing around waiting. All anxious to speak up, but doesn't want to be the first to say something.

My early favorite is Owasso. I think Jenks has a good season, but get beat out in the semis. Union challenges, but comes up short in the finals.

taz
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Way too early fall favorites Jun 25, 2018 12:04:12 GMT -6

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Post by taz on Jun 25, 2018 12:04:12 GMT -6

Jenks is 100% better off than they were at this time last year. Jenks looked very good at the 7 on 7 tourney at Bixby. I hear BA will start out number one because "experts" think they have more D1 players. Jenks plays BA early in season, a game to watch.

youteachmefootball
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Way too early fall favorites Jul 21, 2018 13:58:46 GMT -6

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Post by youteachmefootball on Jul 21, 2018 13:58:46 GMT -6

Jun 25, 2018 12:04:12 GMT -6 taz said:

Jenks is 100% better off than they were at this time last year. Jenks looked very good at the 7 on 7 tourney at Bixby. I hear BA will start out number one because "experts" think they have more D1 players. Jenks plays BA early in season, a game to watch.

How will all the coaching departures effect Jenks though? They dont have the player numbers theyve had in the past. And look like they are going to play several key guys on both sides of the ball.

I have heard radio "experts" pick BA as well. Because of all the talent that has mysteriously "moved in". How do you get 4 QBs and multiple other kids move in and not raise suspicion?

Its just about a month away!

cardinalcowboy
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 15, 2018 7:38:34 GMT -6

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Post by cardinalcowboy on Aug 15, 2018 7:38:34 GMT -6

BA doesn't have a QB. The move in's were all beaten out at their previous school, and come from a smaller class. Best I can tell they will eventually be using their returning starting LB as QB, and even with the rest of their talent that wont be enough to surpass Union and Owasso.
Owasso has enough coming back to get it done again, but going into the season Union is my pick to win the gold ball.
Interested to see how Jenks performs, it has been a tough last 12-15 months for those kids off the field.

Nick Fury
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 20, 2018 6:31:20 GMT -6

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Post by Nick Fury on Aug 20, 2018 6:31:20 GMT -6

Only time will tell. I hope a western team can finally break through. Is there a western team that can? ESF? NN? EDM? Just asking. Now D-2? That's a different story. Bixby has won all but one. Booker T always has a chance and I wonder who is going to be the dark horse in that group. Muskogee? Midwest City?

cardinalcowboy
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 20, 2018 11:57:45 GMT -6

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Post by cardinalcowboy on Aug 20, 2018 11:57:45 GMT -6

It doesn't look good for the West side in 6A-1 this year, I would guess NN has the best team on that side but it could easily be an all east side semis. I think BA is the weakest of the 4.
In 6A-2 I think its Booker T and MWC a head above the rest, then a big step down to the rest of the pack unless Bixby reloads with some kids we haven't even heard of yet.

Nick Fury
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 23, 2018 6:37:39 GMT -6

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Post by Nick Fury on Aug 23, 2018 6:37:39 GMT -6

OK. What's the biggest difference in eastern and western FB in 6A? I know schools have split etc etc etc but those schools have been in existence a while now. Numbers can't be the issue anymore cause BA still hasn't won a FB title. Is it facilities? Off-season? Commitment? I know all about the jimmys and joes argument. Are eastern FB kids that much better? In other sports seem the western side is just as good or even better in a lot of areas. So why not FB?

cardinalcowboy
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 23, 2018 7:39:22 GMT -6

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Post by cardinalcowboy on Aug 23, 2018 7:39:22 GMT -6

The east is only ahead in those top 3 or 4 in the states biggest class. MWC is right there in 6A2, and the west has dominated 5A for awhile now. At this point its simply chasing the tradition of Jenks and Union. The west has upgraded facilities and commitment has been there, as is talent. Its just hard to overtake tradition. They just have to keep beating down the door, eventually it will fall. People can point to Owasso, but it took a Hall of Fame coach to do it there

uriah7
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 23, 2018 8:58:27 GMT -6

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Post by uriah7 on Aug 23, 2018 8:58:27 GMT -6

Its interesting Lawton is not in the conversation of favorites in 6A-2, or schools on the west side who have made some noise. Up until last year, MWC had not won a playoff game in 6A-2, so I would put Lawton as a team who could definitely finish on top of 6A-2. Thoughts?

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youteachmefootball
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 23, 2018 11:48:29 GMT -6

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Post by youteachmefootball on Aug 23, 2018 11:48:29 GMT -6

Aug 23, 2018 6:37:39 GMT -6 Nick Fury said:

OK. What's the biggest difference in eastern and western FB in 6A? I know schools have split etc etc etc but those schools have been in existence a while now. Numbers can't be the issue anymore cause BA still hasn't won a FB title. Is it facilities? Off-season? Commitment? I know all about the jimmys and joes argument. Are eastern FB kids that much better? In other sports seem the western side is just as good or even better in a lot of areas. So why not FB?

The REAL powers in the East, Union Jenks and seemingly Owasso, make a commitment from the very top of the district down to the bus drivers. Coaches work harder(and smarter), they do more. Westside schools can say they are committed but until they see the depth of the program(not # of players), they wont understand. Eastside schools develop their players in "their" systems from a younger age, so they have more knowledge when they get older. There are tons of factors beside facilities

Nick Fury
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Way too early fall favorites Aug 27, 2018 6:48:07 GMT -6

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Post by Nick Fury on Aug 27, 2018 6:48:07 GMT -6

Owasso? That's still a eastern school. 6A has been east for a long time. Jenks and Union....Bixby and Booker T....I wonder why the 2 best powers never met MWC CA and Jenks in FB. Would have loved to see that. Rose vs Trimble. Titans vs Trojans. You could be right on with the system. East side schools have fewer Middle Schools or Junior Highs and most HS coaches know the middle school coaches as well. Great point on system. Jenks has been doing that for years. I still say that the East side facilities are unmatched on the west. Jenks, Union, BA, and Owasso have the bar set pretty high. Can any westside facilities match those? Kinda like OU and OSU. OSU made a commitment to facilities and program has taken off. I just want to see more parody in the bigger classes I guess.

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