Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 19:06:53 GMT -6
Sept 8, 2019 18:24:38 GMT -6 @oldblue760 said:
Huh?! What are you talking about, man? Ringling has had issues "for years now?" For how many years have we had these issues that "no one really wants to address" because we're Ringling and blah blah? What in the world would make you say no one wants to address the current issues? But now it all seems to be falling apart at a high rate of speed? Wishful thinking, bro. I'd put it out of my mind if I were you, but you do as you wish.
We've had these dry spells and coaching problems before and bounced back; we're going through one now and will bounce back; we'll have them in the distant future and bounce back. It's that simple. How do I know? I know because Ringling remains, as it ever was, a football town. It is inhabited and surrounded by football fanatics whose roots were planted here long long ago. When it comes to the people of Ringling, we'll never settle for average in our football team for very long at a time. That is why Justus only lasted three years; many of us knew from the gitgo he was a bad fit for Ringling, and therefore a bad hire. Coach Koons may well be on the same fast track to unemployment if he doesn't get his act together and figure out how to sell the boys, their parents and the town on his system. For my part I think he should be given at least as much time as Justus was given, but I know a bunch of people in Ringling just do not like nor trust him for whatever reason. So he may be doomed as well.
Btw, the kid that quit in the middle of the Mangum game walked out on his teammates, and that is all he did in my estimation. The team is better off without him as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: P.S. Coach Koons said on the Saturday Morning coach's show that we are down to "about 25 players" now. That amounts to a loss of five or six kids in a week. Three are easily accounted for - Cody Scott, who was ejected from the game at Mangum; the Fincher kid, who I'm hearing re-injured his shoulder vs Mangum and may have played his last HS football game; and the kid who quit in the middle of the game that night. As for the other two or three, I assume they are injuries as well, and/or that Koons misspoke in that interview.
I’m sure other football towns like Okeene, Turpin all said the same thing at one point in time. Let’s face it, Ringling has been an ok football team the last three years. Right now they are an ok football team. Could it change..,,sure. Will it? Time will tell. Ringling has had issues with adapting. They don’t throw the ball very well and they don’t do well with teams that can match up with them athletically. They do alright in their district...they’ll never have to worry about someone truly challenging them in their district so they’ll continue to host playoff games at home. But the last three years they have been losing to teams who finished 3rd or 4th in their district.. I’m sorry if I hit a nerve. Just what I see. I understand it’s not a very popular opinion and I understand I could be wrong. That’s what I like about these forums...I can express my opinion. Sometimes I’m right, sometimes I’m wrong. But remember I said I wouldn’t put Ringling in the top 10 not even a week ago, you replied “Ringling is a top ten team...wink, wink”. Then they lost to Mangum. Not only did they lose to Mangum, Ringling played a game out of their normal character. Kid getting ejected, kid quitting in the middle of the game. Dry spell, implosion, call it whatever you want...it all equates that Ringling is just an ok football team.
There is no need for you to be sorry for hitting a nerve. I won't say I'm sorry for "barking back" because I'm not. Why should I be?
My contention has nothing to do with whether Ringling is currently an OK team or not. They've been an OK team for three years now? Ha, ha. Don't make me laugh. Do you know how many times that could be said of Ringling over the course of, oh, say fifty years dating back to our first championship appearance and the few seasons preceding it? You seem to be hoping beyond hope that this is going to be our final downfall; the straw that finally broke the devil's back, so to speak. It might be, but like I said before, I wouldn't count on it. A snowball has a better chance in hell than that happening at this point, but believe what you want.
The ejection is not out of character for Ringling, btw. It was a minor scrape between two outstanding players, and that is all it was. The fact is that the officials are and have been for several years putting more emphasis on enforcing those rules. That is why you have seen, over the last couple of years, so many unsportsmanlike penalties assessed against physical teams like Ringling. When we played Dibble last year there were probably four or five unsportsmanlike penalties thrown against each team. Mangum got a couple the other night, as I recall. Why? For hitting too hard or playing too rough, as it were. Is Ringling having a hard time adapting to that? Well, yeah, kind of; we are Ringling after all. Meanwhile Koons wants our boys to play more physical, old school Ringling football in spite of those facts. Go figure. LOL Guess what: he's right.
But the last three years they have been losing to teams who were third or fourth in their districts? Well, yeah, that's true'n all, but it ain't the whole story and you know it. Two of those teams went on to play in the championship game, and one in the semi-finals, no? Granted that Wynnewood blew us off the field the one year, but we all knew that was going to happen under Justus. I think our boys went 5/5 that year and still won the district. That tells you how bad our district was, but we've seen those seasons before too.